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Old 11-01-2012, 09:03 AM   #1
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Who ****ing cares? Sam Bradford was a brokedick mediocre piece of shit. You didn't see Rams fans crying their eyes out because he wasn't Matt Stafford.

Cheer the **** up. Geno Smith IS elite.
Man I hope you are right. Geno damn well BETTER be elite. Still wish we had the #1 or #2 pick last year...
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:25 AM   #2
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Man I hope you are right. Geno damn well BETTER be elite. Still wish we had the #1 or #2 pick last year...
I don't understand this...

What do you mean "damn well BETTER be elite?"

Should we not use a pick on a QB because he's not considered to be in the 0.01% of all QB's who have ever entered the draft, which would be only two guys in the history of the draft in the eyes of guys like Kiper and Mayock, etc., i.e. - Elway or Luck.

If taking a QB not named John Elway or Andrew Luck has your panties in a knot, then you should really start pimping Barrett Jones as our pick. He's probably the safest guy in the draft in terms of getting high level performance with the lowest chance of bust.

Me, I'm freaking sick of our QB situation. It's been 30 years since we took one. Smith has all the tools. I'd take him over any QB that's come out the past 15 years other than Andrew Luck. That's okay in my book in terms of the Chiefs FINALLY getting a decent QB prospect of their own in the draft.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:46 AM   #3
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It is easier for a cammel to go through the eye of a needle than let the Chiefs draft a first round quarterback / Jesus
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:52 PM   #4
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I don't understand this...

What do you mean "damn well BETTER be elite?"

Should we not use a pick on a QB because he's not considered to be in the 0.01% of all QB's who have ever entered the draft, which would be only two guys in the history of the draft in the eyes of guys like Kiper and Mayock, etc., i.e. - Elway or Luck.

If taking a QB not named John Elway or Andrew Luck has your panties in a knot, then you should really start pimping Barrett Jones as our pick. He's probably the safest guy in the draft in terms of getting high level performance with the lowest chance of bust.

Me, I'm freaking sick of our QB situation. It's been 30 years since we took one. Smith has all the tools. I'd take him over any QB that's come out the past 15 years other than Andrew Luck. That's okay in my book in terms of the Chiefs FINALLY getting a decent QB prospect of their own in the draft.
I think you took what I said the wrong way. What I meant was: I sure as hell hope Geno is elite. It'd be crushing if the year we FINALLY have the #1 pick, the guy we get busts. I'm with you.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:59 PM   #5
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I think you took what I said the wrong way. What I meant was: I sure as hell hope Geno is elite. It'd be crushing if the year we FINALLY have the #1 pick, the guy we get busts.
That's the thing, though. We're at rock bottom. We're getting the #1 overall pick. It's not crushing at all if our new QB busts.

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Old 11-01-2012, 05:01 PM   #6
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That's the thing, though. We're at rock bottom. We're getting the #1 overall pick. It's not crushing at all if our new QB busts.
I'd be pretty upset if we finally get the #1 overall QB and he sucks. Especially knowing our front office. They are stupid enough to think "Well that's why we don't draft first round QBs!". Like...I honestly think they're stupid enough to believe that if we draft a first round QB and he's a bust. "We're better off getting free agent journeymen QBs!"
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:17 AM   #7
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I think you took what I said the wrong way. What I meant was: I sure as hell hope Geno is elite. It'd be crushing if the year we FINALLY have the #1 pick, the guy we get busts. I'm with you.
Look at it this way:
If he busts, we'll be right in line to try again.
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Old 11-02-2012, 10:20 AM   #8
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Look at it this way:
If he busts, we'll be right in line to try again.
This time maybe we'll finally be able to do better than the 3rd or 4th best QB class in the last 15 years. God, we're so unlucky!
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:29 AM   #9
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Still wish we had the #1 or #2 pick last year...
At some point we all have to get over this and move on. Yes, everybody wishes we got one of those guys. It didn't happen.

Time to move on and stop talking about Luck or RG3.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:51 AM   #10
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At some point we all have to get over this and move on. Yes, everybody wishes we got one of those guys. It didn't happen.

Time to move on and stop talking about Luck or RG3.
I can also see how this could be a huge focal point with some fans.

Fans have finally had it. I have heard many say that for Pioli being exec genious and all, he should have had the foresight to see that with losing so many players, losing the head coach, and another losing season staring him in the face timed with the best pair of QB's to come out in decades, should have been enough for him to put us in a position to get one of them. It was only our greatest position of need and biggest weakness. He didn't do it. He gave false hope stating it would be addressed. He failed.

30 years is too long!! That could easily be put on a banner. Just sayin.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:57 AM   #11
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At some point we all have to get over this and move on. Yes, everybody wishes we got one of those guys. It didn't happen.

Time to move on and stop talking about Luck or RG3.
I think the moves Pioli made last season are what cooked his goose here. He failed to get face time with Manning, didn't make an attempt at Orton, didn't try for one of the two elite QB's that will go down in NFL history as the next "Peyton & Brady or Montana & Marino" type players of the decade and he fired the wrong coach.

All this because of his faith in Matty C, a guy that already proved last season to be an absolute failure.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:41 AM   #12
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I think the moves Pioli made last season are what cooked his goose here. He failed to get face time with Manning, didn't make an attempt at Orton, didn't try for one of the two elite QB's that will go down in NFL history as the next "Peyton & Brady or Montana & Marino" type players of the decade and he fired the wrong coach.

All this because of his faith in Matty C, a guy that already proved last season to be an absolute failure.
The problem is, Pioli wants the Brady and Montana, not the Peyton or Elway.

He wants to find the diamond in the rough, the 3rd to 7th round QB that comes out to be a Hall of Famer.

He doesn't want to spend a first rounder on one. It's already been reported that he thinks that's "too risky."
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:59 AM   #13
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The problem is, Pioli wants the Brady and Montana, not the Peyton or Elway.

He wants to find the diamond in the rough, the 3rd to 7th round QB that comes out to be a Hall of Famer.

He doesn't want to spend a first rounder on one. It's already been reported that he thinks that's "too risky."
The interview you are referencing was the predraft interview last year. He didn't say that taking a first round quarterback was "too risky" he said that trading multiple first rounders would be "irresponsible" he even said that he could see himself trading up to take one, just not with multiple first round picks.

Of course, all that went moot when he doubled down on Cassel and disregarded trading even a third round pick for Tannehill and didn't bring in anyone that could upgrade the position for us.

IMO we should have signed Orton AND traded up for Tannehill and proceeded to do what Miami did with a completely open qb competition.

If Pioli is allowed to stay, I fully expect him to draft Landry Jones. I said as much almost 2 years ago.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:00 AM   #14
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The interview you are referencing was the predraft interview last year. He didn't say that taking a first round quarterback was "too risky" he said that trading multiple first rounders would be "irresponsible" he even said that he could see himself trading up to take one, just not with multiple first round picks.

Of course, all that went moot when he doubled down on Cassel and disregarded trading even a third round pick for Tannehill and didn't bring in anyone that could upgrade the position for us.

IMO we should have signed Orton AND traded up for Tannehill and proceeded to do what Miami did with a completely open qb competition.

If Pioli is allowed to stay, I fully expect him to draft Landry Jones. I said as much almost 2 years ago.
Good Lord what FAIL that would be...
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If Pioli is allowed to stay, I fully expect him to draft Landry Jones. I said as much almost 2 years ago.
Nope I don't see it. IF Pioli is allowed to stay, I think he'll be forced to draft a QB with that #1 or #2 overall pick.
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