Football San Antonio Raiders? - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 07-29-2014, 03:23 PM

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SAN ANTONIO — Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two top lieutenants met recently with several San Antonio officials to discuss the potential of moving his NFL team from the Bay Area to the Alamo City, sources familiar with the matter have confirmed.

On July 18, Davis met with the officials, including Henry Cisneros, then-Mayor Julián Castro, City Manager Sheryl Sculley, Mario Hernandez of the San Antonio Economic Development Foundation, and both Richard Perez and David McGee, the president and chairman of the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce, respectively.

San Antonio has often been used as a bargaining chip for pro sports franchises trying to negotiate better deals in their own respective cities, but sources have characterized Davis' interest in San Antonio to be at least somewhat more serious. He is clearly perturbed with his current situation in Oakland, where the team's lease expires after the 2014-15 season.

Cisneros, who led the charge to build the Alamodome when he was mayor, has been described by sources as the architect of the meeting.

Davis and his associates reportedly spent two or three days here, visiting the Alamodome and other places. They also took an aerial tour of the city in a helicopter, arranged by developer Marty Wender.

With some upgrades, the Alamodome could be ready for a 2015-16 NFL season, though it would be a temporary home at best. The city has set aside funds to add suites to the 21-year-old dome, now home to the University of Texas at San Antonio Roadrunners football team and the San Antonio Talons arena football team.

If the Raiders moved here, though, Davis is expected to seek a new stadium within a few years, after the team had proved itself in the Alamo City.

Davis told San Antonio civic and business leaders he isn't seeking a “Jerry Jones-type facility” and prefers “a small, intimate” stadium that he can place “a statue of his father in front of,” a source said.

But even if San Antonio ponies up an enticing deal and Davis ultimately decides to relocate here, the two sides would still face an uphill battle. San Antonio only ranks in the mid-30s in the nation's top television markets and NFL owners — including the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans — would have to vote on the deal. And whether the NFL would allow the team to leave the sixth largest media market for the 37th remains unclear.

Any team desiring to relocate would need the blessing of 24 of the league's 32 owners. Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications, had little to say on a potential Raiders relocation.

“We don't have any information about (Davis' meeting in San Antonio), so there is no reason for us to comment,” he said Tuesday. “We have received no applications from any of our teams to relocate at this point, so there is nothing for us to respond to.”

Though San Antonio ranks 37th in the country's top television markets, the Raiders have a significant Hispanic fan base and Davis apparently believes his team would do well in South Texas.

It appears that his meeting here has been in the works for at least a couple months. A source familiar with the talks said he had heard a couple months ago that the Raiders were interested in San Antonio. But the details of Davis' visit indicate that he could be interested in San Antonio more than just as a bargaining chip in Oakland. While here, the Raiders owner had separate discussions with Spurs owner Peter Holt and Red McCombs, who both showed interest in having a stake in the team if it were to move here. A source indicated that the beleaguered Wheatley Heights sports complex on the East Side could serve as a potential training facility, and Davis also looked at open land during his visit.

Though Holt is apparently interested in NFL in San Antonio, others in the Spurs organization aren't. There are concerns, a source said, that the Raiders, whose colors are also black and silver, could pull away from the Spurs' fan bass — and their pocketbooks.

CoMoChief · 07-29-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

How about having states that don't have a team get in the mix, first?texas having three teams, when other states don't even have one seems chicken shit in my book. I realize a lot has to do with population, but San Antonio is hardly a Mecca.

States with no NFL team:

Oregon
Wyoming
Idaho
Nevada
New Mexico
N.Dakota
S.Dakota
Iowa
Nebraska
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Mississippi
Alabama
Kentucky
Virginia
W.Virginia
Rhode Island
Maine
Delaware
S.Carolina
Alaska
Hawaii

I think that's all. There isn't one state listed that would be able to keep a team in one of those states cities . Some of those places are already dominated by the college game. .and I don't tthink a pro team would survive.

Discuss Thrower · 07-29-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

States with no NFL team:

Oregon
Wyoming
Idaho
Nevada
New Mexico
N.Dakota
S.Dakota
Iowa
Nebraska
Arkansas
Oklahoma

Utah.

Prison Bitch · 07-29-2014, 04:40 PM

It would be a much nicer road trip location for Chiefs fans. But I can't imagine the citizens of that fine city wanting all the riff-raff gansta-wannabes coming out of the woodwork and embarrassing their city. Oakland is a better spot for that trash.

In58men · 07-29-2014, 04:41 PM

Maine & Hawaii

Dunerdr · 07-29-2014, 04:42 PM

As long as they aren't in okc idgaf

**007** · 07-29-2014, 04:50 PM

hey, then we can go to a Chiefs oakland game that isn't in KC as an option.

98 SR20 · 07-29-2014, 05:01 PM

Wow this is new. So used to hearing about the Chargers moving to LA, or to San Antonio.

Why Not? · 07-29-2014, 05:02 PM

Would still hate.

98 SR20 · 07-29-2014, 05:14 PM

Sounds like Mark has learned well from his old man. Use the San Antonio threat to scare Oakland in building a new stadium. Raiders ain't going to San Antonio.

Aries Walker · 07-29-2014, 05:16 PM

I'm amused by the idea of a small, intimate NFL stadium.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 07-29-2014, 05:26 PM

Worst city in Texas. Don't give them shit.

98 SR20 · 07-29-2014, 05:35 PM

I doubt they actually move to San Antonio.

Deberg_1990 · 07-29-2014, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98 SR20

Sounds like Mark has learned well from his old man. Use the San Antonio threat to scare Oakland in building a new stadium. Raiders ain't going to San Antonio.

This. I'm fairly certain this is what's going on.

**TribalElder** · 07-29-2014, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

He does realize that San Antonio is land-locked, right? There ain't much pirate raiding that can be done in San Antonio

The San Antonio Border Raiders

Lonewolf Ed · 07-29-2014, 06:08 PM

I couldn't get excited about this if I lived in San Antone. I'd look at it like a potato blight moving in. Raiders...

07-29-2014, 03:23 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3894454	San Antonio Raiders? http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/pro...to-5654812.php SAN ANTONIO — Oakland Raiders owner Mark Davis and two top lieutenants met recently with several San Antonio officials to discuss the potential of moving his NFL team from the Bay Area to the Alamo City, sources familiar with the matter have confirmed. On July 18, Davis met with the officials, including Henry Cisneros, then-Mayor Julián Castro, City Manager Sheryl Sculley, Mario Hernandez of the San Antonio Economic Development Foundation, and both Richard Perez and David McGee, the president and chairman of the San Antonio Chamber of Commerce, respectively. San Antonio has often been used as a bargaining chip for pro sports franchises trying to negotiate better deals in their own respective cities, but sources have characterized Davis' interest in San Antonio to be at least somewhat more serious. He is clearly perturbed with his current situation in Oakland, where the team's lease expires after the 2014-15 season. Cisneros, who led the charge to build the Alamodome when he was mayor, has been described by sources as the architect of the meeting. Davis and his associates reportedly spent two or three days here, visiting the Alamodome and other places. They also took an aerial tour of the city in a helicopter, arranged by developer Marty Wender. With some upgrades, the Alamodome could be ready for a 2015-16 NFL season, though it would be a temporary home at best. The city has set aside funds to add suites to the 21-year-old dome, now home to the University of Texas at San Antonio Roadrunners football team and the San Antonio Talons arena football team. If the Raiders moved here, though, Davis is expected to seek a new stadium within a few years, after the team had proved itself in the Alamo City. Davis told San Antonio civic and business leaders he isn't seeking a “Jerry Jones-type facility” and prefers “a small, intimate” stadium that he can place “a statue of his father in front of,” a source said. But even if San Antonio ponies up an enticing deal and Davis ultimately decides to relocate here, the two sides would still face an uphill battle. San Antonio only ranks in the mid-30s in the nation's top television markets and NFL owners — including the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans — would have to vote on the deal. And whether the NFL would allow the team to leave the sixth largest media market for the 37th remains unclear. Any team desiring to relocate would need the blessing of 24 of the league's 32 owners. Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications, had little to say on a potential Raiders relocation. “We don't have any information about (Davis' meeting in San Antonio), so there is no reason for us to comment,” he said Tuesday. “We have received no applications from any of our teams to relocate at this point, so there is nothing for us to respond to.” Though San Antonio ranks 37th in the country's top television markets, the Raiders have a significant Hispanic fan base and Davis apparently believes his team would do well in South Texas. It appears that his meeting here has been in the works for at least a couple months. A source familiar with the talks said he had heard a couple months ago that the Raiders were interested in San Antonio. But the details of Davis' visit indicate that he could be interested in San Antonio more than just as a bargaining chip in Oakland. While here, the Raiders owner had separate discussions with Spurs owner Peter Holt and Red McCombs, who both showed interest in having a stake in the team if it were to move here. A source indicated that the beleaguered Wheatley Heights sports complex on the East Side could serve as a potential training facility, and Davis also looked at open land during his visit. Though Holt is apparently interested in NFL in San Antonio, others in the Spurs organization aren't. There are concerns, a source said, that the Raiders, whose colors are also black and silver, could pull away from the Spurs' fan bass — and their pocketbooks.
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