Football Johnny Manziel’s Father Hopes Son Goes to Jail. Calls him a "druggie" - Page 3

**Dave Lane** · 07:07 PM

Johnny Manziel’s family has had enough of the NFL free agent quarterback’s ever-growing list of trouble. The former Cleveland Browns quarterback was back in the news this week after he was involved in another hit-and-run accident. And to make matters worse for him, his lawyer, Bob Hinton, accidentally sent a damaging text to The Associated Press. The text, which in part said “Heaven help us if one of the conditions is to pee in a bottle,” also mentioned a potential plea deal in Manziel’s domestic violence case and that the QB spent more than $1,000 on drug paraphernalia shortly after the hit-and-run.

Manziel’s father, Paul, was quite candid about the situation when ESPN’s Josina Anderson asked him Friday for a comment. “He’s a druggie. It’s not a secret that he’s a druggie,” Paul Manziel said in a phone interview Friday. “I don’t know what to say other than my son is a druggie and he needs help. He just hasn’t (sought) it yet. Hopefully he doesn’t die before he comes to his senses. That’s about all you can say. I don’t know what else to say. … “I had him in rehab and he escaped and the doctors let him go, and that is a whole other story. So I mean I had him (in rehab) and the system failed. It didn’t work. “He has more money than me, so he can outrun me. Like I said, there are two things that are going to happen: He’s either going to die, or he’s going to figure out that he needs help. It’s one of the two. But we’ve done everything that we can do. Life goes on. You can’t just chase somebody that’s not willing to listen. The story is not going to change. It’s the same. … “I mean, I hate to say it, but I hope he goes to jail. I mean, that would be the best place for him.”

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Why Not? · 06-26-2016, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Huh?

He got in depth with ESPN, which basically is like talking to the whole world, about a personal/familial issue. I don't care how big of a douche your son is, he's still your son. Why the need to bury him like that? A simple "no comment" or "Johnny knows where we're at with him and we hope he gets the help he needs" would suffice.

So, basically what I'm saying is, the problem with his comments is that he made them at all. At least in the fashion or to the forum that he did.

patteeu · 06-26-2016, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

He got in depth with ESPN, which basically is like talking to the whole world, about a personal/familial issue. I don't care how big of a douche your son is, he's still your son. Why the need to bury him like that? A simple "no comment" or "Johnny knows where we're at with him and we hope he gets the help he needs" would suffice.

So, basically what I'm saying is, the problem with his comments is that he made them at all. At least in the fashion or to the forum that he did.

Ok. We can agree to disagree on that. I'm still curious about Dane's answer.

RINGLEADER · 06-26-2016, 09:14 AM

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Why Not? · 06-26-2016, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Ok. We can agree to disagree on that. I'm still curious about Dane's answer.

Fair enough

jspchief · 06-26-2016, 09:21 AM

I like how people are rushing to defend the father. If the kid had any sort of discipline growing up, he wouldn't have been such a raging douche. This is just another case of Affluenza run rampant. No shit the father "doesn't know what to do about it"... he's probably spent Johnny's entire life being a friend instead of a father.

stevieray · 06-26-2016, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

"... he's probably spent Johnny's entire life being a friend instead of a father.

...most likely.

...and prolly one of the absolute worst things you can do as a parent and exactly why they aren't friends now.

**SAUTO** · 06-26-2016, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

His parents reportedly have a net worth of more than $50 million, mostly through inheritance.

Unfortunately, the best parents can produce kids that have issues. I have no idea if Manziel's parents were great, attentive parents.

But his father's comments aren't those is associate with a great dad.

If that's the case how does Johnny have more money than he does?

**SAUTO** · 06-26-2016, 09:52 AM

Yeah he's worth 6 million to his parents 50 million.

So his dad lied in this article.

Titty Meat · 06-26-2016, 10:06 AM

How do you blame the father for his son having a drug addict other than genes which can't be controlled? Is Andy Reid a bad father too?

jspchief · 06-26-2016, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

How do you blame the father for his son having a drug addict other than genes which can't be controlled? Is Andy Reid a bad father too?

the same way I blame your parents for the raging imbecile you are.

patteeu · 06-26-2016, 10:28 AM

Parenting obviously makes a difference, but at some point grown adults should be held accountable for themselves (both in terms of credit for the good and blame for the bad).

**fan4ever** · 06-26-2016, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

I like how people are rushing to defend the father. If the kid had any sort of discipline growing up, he wouldn't have been such a raging douche. This is just another case of Affluenza run rampant. No shit the father "doesn't know what to do about it"... he's probably spent Johnny's entire life being a friend instead of a father.

You've got a kid who's been told by all sorts of people the sun rises on his ass since he was probably about 10 years old. I think even a GREAT parent would have a hard time insulating him from all the adulation and raising a well adjusted kid. I know it happens, I just think it would be very, very hard.

Deberg_1990 · 06-26-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Parenting obviously makes a difference, but at some point grown adults should be held accountable for themselves (both in terms of credit for the good and blame for the bad).

Exactly Nobody here has any idea what kind of father his dad was.

There are tons of NFL busts who dont become raging, druggie, D-Bags. You just never know how a kid will handle money, fame and entitlement at a young age.

**LoneWolf** · 06-26-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

...most likely.

...and prolly one of the absolute worst things you can do as a parent and exactly why they aren't friends now.

I'm curious. Do you have any sons?

jspchief · 06-26-2016, 10:57 AM

Manziel has been a douche since day one. It's not like he got corrupted by the money and fame. He was a low character guy from the start.

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