Shanahan Grilled by DC Press (Says the MRI Might Be Wrong Because of Old Injuries)

[RINGLEADER]

Watching Shanahan get questioned about putting RG3 into the game long enough to watch his knee go side-ways. Getting peeved. Fun to watch him squirm. The fact that he didn't come out and say RG3 was fine and instead is sending him to Dr. Andrews for another set of MRIs ("sometimes old injuries can fool new MRIs") doesn't sound good...

[JoeyChuckles]

How is Robert?

[houstonwhodat]

Evidently DC is not a good place to play if you don't want your legs snapped in half.

See Joe Theisman

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

KIRK ****ING COUSINS ****ING SUCKS.

How's that for a ****ing opinion?

This. I'm tired of hearing about this slapdick sumbitch.

[Dylan]

There are two stories here:

Do you suppose world-renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews told USA Today Sports that he did not clear Robert Griffin III "to return for four plays against the Ravens on Dec 9 when he sprained his knee" - Which will coincide with the release of his new book “On Any Given Monday” on Tuesday?

Why did Andrews wait three weeks to release the information?


Seattle Seahawks at Washington Redskins:
There are different views on whether Griffin III should have continued playing Sunday after reinjuring his knee in the first half. Standard protocol suggests team doctor's rule the sidelines. Coaches do not have the ability to override the judgment of doctor’s decision to let players back on the field.

In clear view of the camera, RGIII "went to a shed behind the Redskins bench, had his knee taped" by Dr. Andrews and was cleared to return to the field.

Andrews does not have to speak with the media since the law protects client medical information.




Just my opinion

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

Evidently DC is not a good place to play if you don't want your legs snapped in half.

See Joe Theisman

Hey, now!

[jspchief]

It was interesting listening to Tony Dungy talk about this on the radio this morning. He was pretty candid in saying that his decision would be based on whether the less than 100% starter still gave you a better chance to win than the healthy backup. Never once did he indicate that the player's long term health factored in. Basically it was play the guy that gave you the best chance to win unless the doctor or player took him(self) out.

I think maybe it shines some light on the part of the business we all kind suspect exists. They are making potentially million dollar decisions. Maybe that playoff win is a higher priority.

My opinion is simply that the Redskins exposed themselves to this risk when they implemented an offense that we all know exposes the QB to greater injury risk. We've seen it before with Vick and other running threat QBs. Their legs win games, and their injuries lose them.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jspchief

It was interesting listening to Tony Dungy talk about this on the radio this morning. He was pretty candid in saying that his decision would be based on whether the less than 100% starter still gave you a better chance to win than the healthy backup. Never once did he indicate that the player's long term health factored in. Basically it was play the guy that gave you the best chance to win unless the doctor or player took him(self) out.

I think maybe it shines some light on the part of the business we all kind suspect exists. They are making potentially million dollar decisions. Maybe that playoff win is a higher priority.

My opinion is simply that the Redskins exposed themselves to this risk when they implemented an offense that we all know exposes the QB to greater injury risk. We've seen it before with Vick and other running threat QBs. Their legs win games, and their injuries lose them.

Absolutely the playoff win is higher priority. How many chances will you get? A couple of different bounces next year and the Skins might miss the playoffs.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Andrews was on the sideline. Where was Andrews telling Shanhan to pull him? Where was he arguing for his client/patient?

Yesterday? I'm not sure what happened yesterday. I would assume he was cleared to keep playing, but that's a different conversation than whether a hobbled, ineffective QB gave the Redskins a better chance to win or not.

But the Andrews situation at large is in reference to a different game. I think their game against the Ravens, where RGIII initially hurt his knee, came back in for a bit, and then went out for the rest of that game. He then missed their next game and was never quite the same.

According to Shanny, Dr. Andrews told him that RGIII was cleared to return to that Ravens game. So if he ended up injuring himself worse when he came back in, hey, not Shanny's fault.

Except Dr. Andrews contradicted that in an interview this past weekend. He said RGIII avoided the doctors and didn't let himself get checked out. So he didn't clear him to go back in because he never even got to look at him. Which would suggest that Shanny made up a conversation.

When RGIII came out the second time against the Ravens, they finally got to check him and said he couldn't go back in.

Shanny tried to tap dance around all of that today. But the point is that everything that happened yesterday is part of a bigger picture where Shanny's credibility doesn't look so hot.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by jspchief

It was interesting listening to Tony Dungy talk about this on the radio this morning. He was pretty candid in saying that his decision would be based on whether the less than 100% starter still gave you a better chance to win than the healthy backup. Never once did he indicate that the player's long term health factored in. Basically it was play the guy that gave you the best chance to win unless the doctor or player took him(self) out.

I think maybe it shines some light on the part of the business we all kind suspect exists. They are making potentially million dollar decisions. Maybe that playoff win is a higher priority.

My opinion is simply that the Redskins exposed themselves to this risk when they implemented an offense that we all know exposes the QB to greater injury risk. We've seen it before with Vick and other running threat QBs. Their legs win games, and their injuries lose them.

An NFL general manager was asked; if the spread option offense could be more than a trend in NFL.

He said there is a reason the spread option offense has not been in the pros - It was not only the violence of the game make it unlikely an option quarterback stays healthy – More importantly, you need a consistent franchise quarterback that gives you continuity. Option quarterbacks are unable to do that.

[Joe Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Dylan

In clear view of the camera, RGIII "went to a shed behind the Redskins bench, had his knee taped" by Dr. Andrews and was cleared to return to the field.


Just my opinion

I found that shed thing rather odd WTF?

[okcchief]

The reason I liked RG3 is because I thought he could be a pocket passer and use his mobility to extend plays. The option shit Washington was running consistently was bound to get him killed. They are pretty dumb if they think a QB can do that and survive in the NFL with his frame. Especially, trading away your future to do so. I just have to SMH.

[Dylan]

Originally Posted by Joe Seahawk

I found that shed thing rather odd WTF?

I must admit that I have never seen that before. Maybe, I've just never noticed sheds on the sidelines.

Originally Posted by okcchief

The reason I liked RG3 is because I thought he could be a pocket passer and use his mobility to extend plays. The option shit Washington was running consistently was bound to get him killed. They are pretty dumb if they think a QB can do that and survive in the NFL with his frame. Especially, trading away your future to do so. I just have to SMH.

Griffin’s a likeable guy. In interviews he seems to be well grounded, humorous, thoughtful, and incredibly smart. There’s not a whole lot there not to like except that he plays in the NFC East division.

I hope that Griffin comes back strong next year, and more importantly, Shanahan redesigns the offense.

[Dylan]

Shanahan trying to improve his record at any cost:

"I talked to Robert and Robert said to me, 'Coach, there's a difference injured and being hurt. I guarantee I'm hurting right now, gimme a chance to win this football game because I guarantee I'm not injured.' So that was enough for me. I thought he did enough for us this year to have that opportunity to stay in the football game. It's always a tough decision, when to pull a guy, when not to. But I talked to him at halftime and I had to feel good about him to go back in.

"And I told him we're gonna run the football and you're gonna have to prove (it) to me."

Shanahan wasn't the only one who noticed either:

NFL:AroundTheLeague@NFL_ATL
Pete Carroll: "It was hard to watch RG3 tonight"

Mike Jones from Washington Post:

“If you noticed it earlier, when we rushing the passer, everyone was worried about him getting out and containing him,” [Pete] Carroll said. “After we saw what he was doing and how he was moving, I tried to encourage the guys to not be worried about [him] breaking containment and running like crazy. It was more like a normal quarterback back there, and [that] we keep our pressure and our rushes and not be so concerned about him, trying to keep him in the pocket.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...hed-abilities/

[Titty Meat]

I disagree Hootie at some point Shannahan has to make the move after it became obvious RG was not going to do anything.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Robert Griffin expected to undergo surgery this week on torn LCL and at that time doctors will determine if any damage has been done to ACL.