Movies and TV MACHETE!

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Machete was NOT a trailer for Grindhouse. It was a fake trailer for a fake movie that came between the two actual films. I went to the theater and saw it.

It created enough buzz, that they actually made the movie.

The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.

Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.

I guess this is why it flopped at the box office.

Man, I loved it! Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I guess this is why it flopped at the box office.

Man, I loved it! Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.

I like QT because of the dialog, mostly.

KCUnited · 09-01-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Planet Terror was awesome. Death Proof was too talky of course, because it's Quintin and Quintin loves to hear himself speak. And the trailers were awesome.

My thoughts exactly.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Grindhouse sucked ass; I couldn't make it through one hour. Sadness.

Do you like QT movies? I loved it. To each his own, though.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Do you like QT movies? I loved it. To each his own, though.

I normally do, but Grindhouse just didn't do it for me.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR

I normally do, but Grindhouse just didn't do it for me.

I initially felt that way about Inglorious Basterds due to the subtitles. I watched it again and loved it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

I initially felt that way about Inglorious Basterds due to the subtitles. I watched it again and loved it.

Now THAT I loved.

Radar Chief · 09-01-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD

I initially felt that way about Inglorious Basterds due to the subtitles. I watched it again and loved it.

From the ads I expected Inglorious Bastards to be a mindless bloodbath, which I’m actually fine with, but was pleasantly surprised when it turned out to have more depth than that.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-01-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The entire thing was a concept film to feel like the 70's. In the theaters, it was shown as one feature length film (Planet Terror & Death Proof were the features, with Thanksgiving, Machete and Were Women of the SS as "trailer" for films that didn't exist).

When the DVD was initially released, it was released in its entirety, more than 3 hours long. The premium cable channels generally have shown one film or the other (Planet Terror or Death Proof).

The entire project was a gigantic flop. It cost more than $67 million to make, yet earned only $25 million worldwide at the box office.

"Machete" was independently financed for less than $20 million, with all of the actors taking back end participation. Out of all the Grindhouse fake trailers, it has the best chance of being successful because of the backstory. The others will be far more difficult to produce.

Maybe I'm missing something here. I saw Grindhouse. I saw the fake trailers. KcM is stating that Machete was originally a fake trailer. I thought it was as well.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Maybe I'm missing something here. I saw Grindhouse. I saw the fake trailers. KcM is stating that Machete was originally a fake trailer. I thought it was as well.

Yeah, it was a fake trailer, along with WereWomen and Thanksgiving.

I don't have any idea why he felt the need to point out that it was fake, considering everyone that saw the film in its entirety knew they were fake trailers and thus part of the entire film called "Grindhouse".

"Fake" really isn't the correct terminology. They were trailers created by filmmakers to give Grindhouse the full effect of seeing a film in the 70's.

If anything, WereWomen (at 8 minutes long) qualifies as a short film and not a faux trailer.

Jenson71 · 09-01-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, it was a fake trailer, along with WereWomen and Thanksgiving.

I don't have any idea why he felt the need to point out that it was fake, considering everyone that saw the film in its entirety knew they were fake trailers and thus part of the entire film called "Grindhouse".

I feel argumentative (along with my usual liking of KcMizzou). KcMizzou obviously felt the need to point out that it was "fake" because two people immediately before him were uncertain about it. However, even if there hadn't been those immediate posts, KcMizzou's information would still have been interesting to the many people who have not seen Grindhouse in their entirety.

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"Fake" really isn't the correct terminology. They were trailers created by filmmakers to give Grindhouse the full effect of seeing a film in the 70's.

Fake is a fine term for it, because [authentic] trailers necessarily correspond to an authentic movie. When a _____ trailer corresponds to a non-authentic movie, the trailer is necessarily a non-authentic trailer. And another way of saying non-authentic is . . . fake.

Hootie · 09-01-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jenson71

I feel argumentative (along with my usual liking of KcMizzou). KcMizzou obviously felt the need to point out that it was "fake" because two people immediately before him were uncertain about it. However, even if there hadn't been those immediate posts, KcMizzou's information would still have been interesting to the many people who have not seen Grindhouse in their entirety.

Fake is a fine term for it, because [authentic] trailers necessarily correspond to an authentic movie. When a _____ trailer corresponds to a non-authentic movie, the trailer is necessarily a non-authentic trailer. And another way of saying non-authentic is . . . fake.

Yeah...I was confused about why Dane chimed in as well...

KcMizzou said exactly what Dane said...

Odd.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Yeah...I was confused about why Dane chimed in as well...

KcMizzou said exactly what Dane said...

Odd.

Honestly, why I did it was because I had a different take originally, then edited it because I didn't want to piss anyone off.