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-King- · 02:22 PM

2012-2013 NBA Champions:

Hootie · 06-04-2013, 08:45 PM

I'm sorry...

A LeBron led dream team right now with the right pieces around him could have beat that '92 dream team.

At the very least, it would have been a fight to the death.

Their only edge would have been Jordan's killer instinct. The only way they win a best of series was if THEN PRIMED Jordan just decided he wasn't going to lose no matter what.

Deberg_1990 · 06-04-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, either you have alzheimers or are delirious , the athletes are the same but the relative skill level isn't. For Example the Real Dream Team in 1992, yeah a who's who in HOF talent on one team outside of Lattener

The 92 dream team was special and elite no doubt. But we tend to over romanticize players from the past because well.....it's the past. I'll bet there will be plenty of Hall of Fame players from the 2012 dream team as well.

**dirk digler** · 06-04-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

I'm sorry...

A LeBron led dream team right now with the right pieces around him could have beat that '92 dream team.

At the very least, it would have been a fight to the death.

Their only edge would have been Jordan's killer instinct. The only way they win a best of series was if THEN PRIMED Jordan just decided he wasn't going to lose no matter what.

If you are comparing the 2012 team vs the 92 team I think the 92 wins mostly because the bigs of the 92 team would own the 2012 bigs.

**Tribal Warfare** · 06-04-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The 92 dream team was special and elite no doubt. But we tend to over romanticize players from the past because well.....it's the past. I'll bet there will be plenty of Hall of Fame players from the 2012 dream team as well.

If you look at the lineups it isn't romanticizing at all. This was the way back when I knew all the players stats up and down. That's how much impact that the players of yesteryear had on the game. Now, it's eroding new defensive rules like zone being allowed, and the lost art of making FTs that's where I notice it most when the basics are being ignored. Players aren't as mentally tough in comparison to the stated players.

KC_Connection · 06-04-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, either you have alzheimers or are delirious , the athletes are the same but the relative skill level isn't. For Example the Real Dream Team in 1992, yeah a who's who in HOF talent on one team outside of Lattener

Nostalgia again.

**Tribal Warfare** · 06-04-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Nostalgia again.

That's your rebuttal nice, name as many all-stars today that could take on the stars of the past on top of your head without looking it up.

**dirk digler** · 06-04-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

that's what I said the last few days to my friends

**** it

put LeBron on Parker...I WATCHED with my own two eyes him shutdown MVP Derrick Rose when Derrick Rose was BEASTING through the playoffs...they put LeBron on him...and it was over. LeBron PWNED him.

Rose is quicker than Parker, so I know LeBron can do it. LeBron takes Parker out of this series? Heat win in 5.

Lebron said last night he might have to guard Parker but they are starting out putting Chalmers on him. Looking at it from a Heat perspective I just don't think you want Lebron chasing Parker all over the court

**notorious** · 06-04-2013, 09:02 PM

Let's not let emotion cloud true history. The Bulls got pushed to the brink a few times, and Jordan miss shots.

A lot of shots.

I was a huge Bulls fan, too.

I have been a Bulls fan since the Wooridge and Sellars days. Satellite TV was new to our house, and wild feed/unscrambled Chicago games were awesome.

No announcers, just Basketball and close-up shots of hot bitches in the crowd during TO's.

Most people have a hard time looking back and seeing how things really were.

-King- · 06-04-2013, 09:04 PM

Why would you put Chalmers on Parker? Parker will have 15 points in the first. I'd really consider starting Norris. He's 100% better defensively and his offense isn't that much worse than Chalmers.

KC_Connection · 06-04-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Why would you put Chalmers on Parker? Parker will have 15 points in the first. I'd really consider starting Norris. He's 100% better defensively and his offense isn't that much worse than Chalmers.

Chalmers' D is significantly better than Norris Cole (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2013.html), but neither can guard Parker. If they actually want to have a chance at stopping him, LeBron will have to do it (and I'm sure he will at the end of the game).

Hootie · 06-04-2013, 09:13 PM

I just ****ing put LeBron on him from the get go and say "game on"

it's the ****ing Finals

tk13 · 06-04-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Let's not let emotion cloud true history. The Bulls got pushed to the brink a few times, and Jordan miss shots.

A lot of shots.

I was a huge Bulls fan, too.

I have been a Bulls fan since the Wooridge and Sellars days. Satellite TV was new to our house, and wild feed/unscrambled Chicago games were awesome.

No announcers, just Basketball and close-up shots of hot bitches in the crowd during TO's.

Most people have a hard time looking back and seeing how things really were.

I 100% agree with you. That works both ways though. People act like 20 years ago guys were a bunch of slow stiffs who could not handle today's athleticism. It's not true. Someone like Hootie would go on about how John Stockton would get run over today... it's not true. They just don't understand the game. Go ask Gary Payton about that. He was one of the best defensive guards of all time, still would be today... and I've seen multiple interviews where he said Stockton was the toughest player he played against. And he guarded Jordan and Kobe. Those guys would hold their own. And I like Tyson Chandler and Kevin Love, very good players... but they would get beat up by a Barkley/Malone/Ewing/Robinson frontcourt. That'd actually be the real problem with a dream team matchup, not LeBron vs. Jordan.

KC native · 06-04-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

that's what I said the last few days to my friends

**** it

put LeBron on Parker...I WATCHED with my own two eyes him shutdown MVP Derrick Rose when Derrick Rose was BEASTING through the playoffs...they put LeBron on him...and it was over. LeBron PWNED him.

Rose is quicker than Parker, so I know LeBron can do it. LeBron takes Parker out of this series? Heat win in 5.

The Spurs movement on offense will prevent LeBron from taking Parker completely out of the series.

Hootie · 06-04-2013, 09:28 PM

dude that's fine...and I don't disagree

you have to understand...when I was 8-13 years old...the NFL was an afterthought for me...I used to watch every Bulls game on WGN and I'd get pumped for the weekend and the NBA on NBC...I'd ****ing sit in my living room and watch the games all day and shoot socks into a ****ing laundry hamper and pretend I was Michael ****ing Jordan

I'm just realistic. There were a billion black kids that would see MJ on TV from their shitty little projects and be like "holy ****" and now all of those kids have grown up (I'm 28) and the ones that wanted to emulate MJ and saw the NBA boom MJ caused have just turned into SUPER ****ING FREAKS...

I'm not saying the players today are better basketball players...fundamentally, it isn't close. I'm saying they are most likely far better athletes.

Again though...I think it's amazingly unfair to compare eras...and I don't like doing it. I appreciate the differences of both eras.

-King- · 06-04-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Chalmers' D is significantly better than Norris Cole (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIA/2013.html), but neither can guard Parker. If they actually want to have a chance at stopping him, LeBron will have to do it (and I'm sure he will at the end of the game).

Don't know what I'm supposed to be looking at there but... http://www.nba.com/heat/news_recap/g...t-guarding-you

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notorious Supporter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Who knows? Casino cash: $2685884	Let's not let emotion cloud true history. The Bulls got pushed to the brink a few times, and Jordan miss shots. A lot of shots. I was a huge Bulls fan, too. I have been a Bulls fan since the Wooridge and Sellars days. Satellite TV was new to our house, and wild feed/unscrambled Chicago games were awesome. No announcers, just Basketball and close-up shots of hot bitches in the crowd during TO's. Most people have a hard time looking back and seeing how things really were.
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06-04-2013, 09:13 PM	#3881
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I just **ing put LeBron on him from the get go and say "game on" it's the **ing Finals
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06-04-2013, 09:28 PM	#3884
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	dude that's fine...and I don't disagree you have to understand...when I was 8-13 years old...the NFL was an afterthought for me...I used to watch every Bulls game on WGN and I'd get pumped for the weekend and the NBA on NBC...I'd **ing sit in my living room and watch the games all day and shoot socks into a ing laundry hamper and pretend I was Michael ing Jordan I'm just realistic. There were a billion black kids that would see MJ on TV from their shitty little projects and be like "holy " and now all of those kids have grown up (I'm 28) and the ones that wanted to emulate MJ and saw the NBA boom MJ caused have just turned into SUPER **ING FREAKS... I'm not saying the players today are better basketball players...fundamentally, it isn't close. I'm saying they are most likely far better athletes. Again though...I think it's amazingly unfair to compare eras...and I don't like doing it. I appreciate the differences of both eras.
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