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Old 12-28-2012, 06:44 PM   #1
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:42 PM   #3
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:32 PM   #4
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There is too much emphasis on talent in pro sports.

A team doesn't have to be loaded with talent to win.

As the saying goes, "best teams on paper don't always win."

I firmly believe that sports are ALL psychological.

Despite all the talent on the Chiefs, this team has never been mentally "fit" to complete.
That is more frustrating than anything.

*We only judge things based on what we can clearly see and so we base things off talent. The psychological aspect of sports is really hard to evaluate and assess as a fan but one can get some sort of an idea of where its at.

With this team, its ****ing atrocious. This team can't focus, isn't strategically smart or creative, and just doesn't have the right mindset. THATS THE PROBLEM!

I see it in a lot of games. Players commit the same mistakes over and over again by either committing costly penalties or turnovers at crucial moments in ball games. Why is that reoccurring? That is where one has to look at the mental aspect of things and it really comes down to a lack of disclipline, focus. The question is, do you attribute that to the players? Or the coaches? Who do you hold accountable for those type of miscues?

Another thing that pisses me off is seeing how these guys joke around on the sidelines or act like things aren't a big deal after they are getting killed in games. That sh*t shouldn't be happening. That is where I believe the players have the wrong mindset.


When your team is pulling off sh*t like that, you have to look beyond talent.

*Sorry OTWP58. Hope you don't think I'm trying to piss on your thread or anything. Just offerring my perspective
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:35 PM   #5
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:37 PM   #6
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:39 PM   #7
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:59 PM   #8
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If he hadn't missed at QB this wouldn't be a 2-win team. If he hadn't retained Crennel this wouldn't be a 2-win team. The NFL is not about having a team full of stars. It's about building a team around a handful of stars. They have that handful. What they don't have is the central piece that each of the perennially best teams have. And on top of that they have a coach that's about as wrong for the team as humanly possible. They're a 2-win team because every fear that every one of us have ever had about Crennel as a HC and Cassel as a QB came to fruition in one brilliant cyclone of suck.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:52 PM   #9
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Suppose the Chiefs signed Peyton Manning. He probably would have been benched in favor of Mr. Cassel until about game 8. This team is run by idiots.

Don't believe me? How long did it take them to figure out Lary was done and Jamaal was a rising star? Only most of the season. Even us stupid fans could
see it and were getting frustrated at them for it.
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Old 12-29-2012, 12:34 AM   #10
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:04 AM   #11
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he's just an angry fan

I don't really get it.

God forbid we think we have talent. I mean, a lot of "experts" who aren't Chiefs fans picked us to win the division...because of the talent we have "on paper"...

No idea why that's so offensive to him.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:16 AM   #12
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I dont have time to read this entire thread but I offer up exhibits A&B.

A: 2010 SF 49'ers sucked balls (6-10) in the worst division in football. 2011 New coach a few players and OT in the NFCCG.

B: Seattle Seahawks 2010 went 7-9 in worst division in football at least according to the CP 2010 NFCW rule. Seattle in 2013?


The worst division in football went to one of the best in 2 season. Well the Cards may be THE worst team in football but Seattle and 49'rs are 2 of the best.

The level of talent on both those teams was very questionable in 2010. Not so much now. SF was known for a good young defense but the offense was beyond abysml.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:37 AM   #13
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I dont have time to read this entire thread but I offer up exhibits A&B.

A: 2010 SF 49'ers sucked balls (6-10) in the worst division in football. 2011 New coach a few players and OT in the NFCCG.

B: Seattle Seahawks 2010 went 7-9 in worst division in football at least according to the CP 2010 NFCW rule. Seattle in 2013?


The worst division in football went to one of the best in 2 season. Well the Cards may be THE worst team in football but Seattle and 49'rs are 2 of the best.

The level of talent on both those teams was very questionable in 2010. Not so much now. SF was known for a good young defense but the offense was beyond abysml.
Green bay and new Orleans. They dominate on offense even with battered offensive lines and fifth string receivers. Our talent on offense is better than these teams.

Our offense has better talent than San Fran. They succed because of perfect coaching of discipline and technique.

The pats offensive line gave up 50 sacks behind cassel. They give up about 20-30 behind Brady.

The colts went from a playoff team to a one win team to a playoff team again. Guess what the difference was in those years.

This offense is more than good enough to support a good oc and a legit qb. I don't care how we compare to bad teams. Our defense has shown enough promise to believe we are really a few players and a new scheme away from being good. We need a great offseason. But two decisions we are in prime position to make are to overhaul the coaching staff and bring in a franchise qb. That goes a very long way. Who cares if it takes 2 or 3 years. With a rookie qb, that's how long it will take for him to be ready anyway.
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:25 PM   #14
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I dont have time to read this entire thread but I offer up exhibits A&B.

A: 2010 SF 49'ers sucked balls (6-10) in the worst division in football. 2011 New coach a few players and OT in the NFCCG.

B: Seattle Seahawks 2010 went 7-9 in worst division in football at least according to the CP 2010 NFCW rule. Seattle in 2013?


The worst division in football went to one of the best in 2 season. Well the Cards may be THE worst team in football but Seattle and 49'rs are 2 of the best.

The level of talent on both those teams was very questionable in 2010. Not so much now. SF was known for a good young defense but the offense was beyond abysml.
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Old 12-29-2012, 10:43 AM   #15
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I don't think the Bills have shitty talent at all. Spiller is a stud, they have a nice interior line (tackles suck), Johnson is a good WR, defense has pieces in the front 4 and secondary.

It's about the QB and coaching, which they suck at too.

I don't know why it's such a reach to think the Chiefs have talent in places.
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