Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 627

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

TambaBerry · 08-13-2013, 07:32 AM

Ya why do you need a new one? This one is fine.

**RockChalk** · 08-13-2013, 07:32 AM

I vote no. I'll deal with the occasional "slowness" of the thread.

Tytanium · 08-13-2013, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Over the last 10 games, we've gained 4, 5, 2, & 5 games against the A's, Rays, Orioles, and Indians respectively. That is massive progress in a short amount of time.

We just won comfortably with our much maligned #5 starter on the mound (who pitched his third straight outstanding game, btw). We did it without our two best outfielders, our second baseman, and while losing our third baseman halfway through the game. This team is rolling.

Wade Davis is the starter version of Jonathan Broxton though. Every time he takes the mound my heart is in my throat.

BlackHelicopters · 08-13-2013, 07:35 AM

No on new thread. Let's not do anything that might change the mojo

Archie F. Swin · 08-13-2013, 07:52 AM

If the Royals win every series for the rest of August and 2 games of every series in September, that will put us in the neighborhood of 90 wins to finish the season. If we lose more than 20 games from this point forward, it will be hard to maintain a position to contend.

Unless the Royals suffer an injury they can't overcome, September is shaping up to be the most exciting single month for Kansas City baseball fans in nearly three decades.

**RockChalk** · 08-13-2013, 07:54 AM

Heading out to the K tonight. Really looking forward to Chen vs Fernandez

Was just looking at his last 10 games...he's been pretty nasty. Duncan, do you have a quick & dirty scouting report about him? How many pitches does he work with and how hard does he throw?

OmahaChief · 08-13-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

New repository... same OP OK with everyone? I'm just hesitant to do it while the mojo is so good.

Terrible idea!

Prison Bitch · 08-13-2013, 08:02 AM

Baseball town had 15k last night at the game. I was able to move around wherever I wanted, let my legs extend over the empty seats ahead of me. Felt relaxing. Nice baseball town, clearly excited about the brand of ball being played now. I'm sure last night will convince Glass to spend tens of millions on payroll next year!

**ptlyon** · 08-13-2013, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations

I don't understand the need for a new repository, this one seems to be working just fine.

I think I remember a post before stating V bulletin having trouble with threads over 10,000 posts

AndChiefs · 08-13-2013, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Baseball town had 15k last night at the game. I was able to move around wherever I wanted, let my legs extend over the empty seats ahead of me. Felt relaxing. Nice baseball town, clearly excited about the brand of ball being played now. I'm sure last night will convince Glass to spend tens of millions on payroll next year!

Shut up.

Monday night game vs. one of the worst teams in the MLB.

Mr_Tomahawk · 08-13-2013, 08:14 AM

Don't start a new thread...you are just asking to screw things up.

Start new threads during losing streaks...not winning streaks.

Wake up people.

duncan_idaho · 08-13-2013, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndChiefs

Shut up.

Monday night game vs. one of the worst teams in the MLB.

Back on ignore for me. Brief reprise. But the constant need to find something to be irrationally pissed about is just played out.

Mr. Laz · 08-13-2013, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Back on ignore for me. Brief reprise. But the constant need to find something to be irrationally pissed about is just played out.

i was shocked when i suddenly saw his name again then i remember i mass emptied my iggy list the other day. Always a mistake because certain people end up going right back on. He is one.

Dr. Gigglepants · 08-13-2013, 08:30 AM

I was at the game Saturday, this town is excited about this team. Had to be over 35K in attendance. Can't even go to the store without the cashier talking about the Royals. What an idiot.
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Great Expectations · 08-13-2013, 08:34 AM

From Pine Tar Press:

So this is one of those games where the two pitchers could not be any different from each other. Fernandez is a big, right-handed flame thrower. Bruce Chen is a lefty and his fastball averages about 85 MPH. Fernandez is 21. Bruce Chen is definitely not. This one should be interesting.

Three things to watch for against Fernandez:

Like Koehler, Fernandez relies mostly on a fastball and a curve, but unlike Koehler, both pitches are big time plus pitches. The fastball averages nearly 96 MPH and the curve can get big and sits in about the low 80s.
Fernandez gets a lot of swings and misses to make up for this, but he’s been hit hard at times and has been a bit fortunate in terms of balls in play. He’s certainly a very tough pitcher, but a team like the Royals could actually be a bad matchup for him because they do a pretty decent job on fastballs and the pitch they struggle with the most isn’t really featured by Fernandez.
No pitch he throws results in much trouble for him, but he’s gotten hit the hardest on his sinker, so we’ll see if the shorter grass at Kauffman Stadium gives him any trouble in that regard.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1730308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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RockChalk Dirty Bit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake of the Woods Casino cash: $3820002	Heading out to the K tonight. Really looking forward to Chen vs Fernandez Was just looking at his last 10 games...he's been pretty nasty. Duncan, do you have a quick & dirty scouting report about him? How many pitches does he work with and how hard does he throw? __________________
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08-13-2013, 08:34 AM	#9405
Great Expectations MVP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Joplin, MO Casino cash: $13662338	From Pine Tar Press: So this is one of those games where the two pitchers could not be any different from each other. Fernandez is a big, right-handed flame thrower. Bruce Chen is a lefty and his fastball averages about 85 MPH. Fernandez is 21. Bruce Chen is definitely not. This one should be interesting. Three things to watch for against Fernandez: Like Koehler, Fernandez relies mostly on a fastball and a curve, but unlike Koehler, both pitches are big time plus pitches. The fastball averages nearly 96 MPH and the curve can get big and sits in about the low 80s. Fernandez gets a lot of swings and misses to make up for this, but he’s been hit hard at times and has been a bit fortunate in terms of balls in play. He’s certainly a very tough pitcher, but a team like the Royals could actually be a bad matchup for him because they do a pretty decent job on fastballs and the pitch they struggle with the most isn’t really featured by Fernandez. No pitch he throws results in much trouble for him, but he’s gotten hit the hardest on his sinker, so we’ll see if the shorter grass at Kauffman Stadium gives him any trouble in that regard. __________________
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