You scared?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

can anyone say with a straight face that this franchise's #1 priority is winning?

or that it cares about the fans more than anything?

I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Dave

I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Dave

I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.

the answer has been obvious for a long damn time

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Dave

I have no idea. We'll find out when the season is over.

Firing Pioli at the end of the season will be about money, not about either of the things you quoted. It will also be the first evidence since 2009 that the team even has an owner.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Firing Pioli at the end of the season will be about money, not about either of the things you quoted. It will also be the first evidence since 2009 that the team even has an owner.

He'll also be losing money if he fires Pioli.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It will also be the first evidence since 2009 that the team even has an owner.

Everyone under the Sun knows who the Cowboys owner is.

What has that done for them lately?

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by Dave

Everyone under the Sun knows who the Cowboys owner is.

What has that done for them lately?

Everyone knows Kraft as well.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Dave

Everyone under the Sun knows who the Cowboys owner is.

What has that done for them lately?

Sorry that you still don't get we're saying, but after making it more than obvious and having seen you go in circles with others over and over on other fairly simple concepts, I'll just assume you're either unable to grasp such things or you're a relatively subtle troll. But don't worry, if he hires another shitty GM, I'm sure he'll be around in 2015 to fix it (oh shit, now I'm doing it...).

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Even bad football is more interesting than good soccer.

Curling in the winter olympics is more interesting than good soccer.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Negro please, I was not and never have been a racist.

That trophy must be quite old. Very progressive of Hunt to commission a trophy for homosexual males back then.

[stevieray]

I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.

Headshot.

[burt]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.

Yet I can't stop. I am pathetic.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Dayum!!

The evolution of Stevie in recent years, condensed to just under 4 minutes.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by stevieray

I knew we were screwed when they started pushing the past hardcore...with snippets from Len and Willie about how great the city and fans were.. They've pimped the glory years for four decades and it just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Nostalgia can only take you so far.

I was sitting with OTWP and Phil at the Panther game...were talking about how they finally pulled their head out of their ass and put the ring of honor back up....I mentioned to OTWP when you look at the names...there's hardly ANYONE from the nineties on and very few from the eighties..and even then it's DT, NS and that's about it....THINK ABOUT THAT..IT IS 2012.

Arrowhead used to be the loudest stadium in the NFL..now they put up bs "get loud" on the digital adverstisement ring...They have completlely killed the atmosphere at tailgates...there is just no excitement , nor energy...they've successfully dumbed down the fans by overmonitering them, treating them like children, and made walking into the stadium like entering a correctional facility.

The rent out of town security guards are waaaaay too happy to get in your business over anything...the patronizing snitch on your fellow fans from the we're trying to promote a family atmosphere, buy our swimsuit calendars Cheerleaders is annoying as hell....They are in disarray with longtime Chief photographer Hank Young, who BTW, takes pics for the donks now...meaning that other than the Hall of PAST honor, you won't ever see the great pics of Chiefs players...ever seen the "other" player wearing 63 on the upper deck?

they've milked a cowtown for years, a midwest mentality of loyalty that has been trampled by BIG money owners who don't live here, an GM who treats the city media and it's fans like they aren't on the VIP list.

There is a reason they've only gotten close one time since SBIV. The game has passed them by, they don't field a complete team, they play not to lose and ultimately, have taken advantage of a once rabid fanbase and have turned it into an apathetic, lathargic boriing club where most come just to be seen. Been out there latlely? The employees of the team are snotty, arrogant and walk around like they're hot shit.....divison rival games?? pffft..even they don't carry weight... the fade own us. the donks own us.

They don't want to win NOW. how could they? carousel of coaches and coordiantors, crappy scouts drafting for projects instead of impact players, overpaying marginal players while letting others with value walk..lopsided rosters.etc ad anausem.

NOT DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB IN OVER TWENTY YEARS? Who the hell does that?

I think they are enamored with being an NFL franchise with a pretty past, than being a Championship franchise with a promising future.

They have no identity, there is no face to the franchise, they are a rudderless boat bumping into the shore periodacally, asking for directions, only to be lost a short time later...

it's past pathetic. it's past apathetic..it's gut wrenchingly awful and flat out embarassing....

And after this long, there's no damn excuse.

/off soapbox.

YUP

and everything you mentioned goes back to ownership