Geno Smith is Sam Bradford

[Hammock Parties]

Sam Bradford has ****ing micropenis.

[RealSNR]

Sure. Let's go with Sam Bradford as our comparison. I don't ****ing care. Just draft him, KC.

[Messier]

Geno fans seem torn. They like the 1st overall aspect of Bradford, but since Bradford is meh, they don't fully want to compare the two. I think it's apt. Smith might be good in the NFL, but I don't think he'll ever be top three or anything.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

Geno fans seem torn. They like the 1st overall aspect of Bradford, but since Bradford is meh, they don't fully want to compare the two. I think it's apt. Smith might be good in the NFL, but I don't think he'll ever be top three or anything.

Could Foles be? You're a big fan of his, IIRC.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by O.city

Could Foles be? You're a big fan of his, IIRC.

No. I don't think so. I think Foles can be as good or better than many in this class.

I think some QB in this draft will be really good, like top ten good. I have no idea who, I have my ideas of who it might be, but just guesses.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

No. I don't think so. I think Foles can be as good or better than many in this class.

I think some QB in this draft will be really good, like top ten good. I have no idea who, I have my ideas of who it might be, but just guesses.

Outside of his arm strength, I just don't see alot about Foles that would make me not take a chance on one of the top 3 in this class.


Apparently neither do the Chiefs, as we've been told the trade talks about him are overblown.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by O.city

Outside of his arm strength, I just don't see alot about Foles that would make me not take a chance on one of the top 3 in this class.


Apparently neither do the Chiefs, as we've been told the trade talks about him are overblown.

Yeah, I don't see it happening, most likely because it'd take a first or second.

[PaulAllen]

Originally Posted by Messier

Geno fans seem torn. They like the 1st overall aspect of Bradford, but since Bradford is meh, they don't fully want to compare the two. I think it's apt. Smith might be good in the NFL, but I don't think he'll ever be top three or anything.

Who's your top three?

[Messier]

Originally Posted by PaulAllen

Who's your top three?

IN the NFL? Rogers, Brady ( for a little while longer), and if repeats what he did, Wilson.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Messier

IN the NFL? Rogers, Brady ( for a little while longer), and if repeats what he did, Wilson.

Russell Wilson top three with, what, one 300 yard passing game?
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[Messier]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Russell Wilson top three with, what, one 300 yard passing game?
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I'm kind of listing him for what I think he's about to be. I guess Brees is right there, but yeah, I think Wilson is that good.

[PaulAllen]

Originally Posted by Messier

IN the NFL? Rogers, Brady ( for a little while longer), and if repeats what he did, Wilson.

Sweet, so Geno could be Eli, Flacco, or Big Ben. I can live with that.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Messier

Geno fans seem torn. They like the 1st overall aspect of Bradford, but since Bradford is meh, they don't fully want to compare the two. I think it's apt. Smith might be good in the NFL, but I don't think he'll ever be top three or anything.

Also, if you're only going to draft a Qb who can be top 3 in the league, you might be waiting a while.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Also, if you're only going to draft a Qb who can be top 3 in the league, you might be waiting a while.

For no reason.

The dirty little secret is that it isn't necessary to have an elite QB to win like so many or saying. You just need to have a good quarterback to win.

Flacco ain't elite. Eli ain't elite. Big Ben ain't elite. Those guys are good in their own ways but each of them have massive holes in their games. Look at the list of SB winners and sure you have good QBs winning all of them.

But in recent history there have been maybe 3 instances of the best QB in football winning the SB - Brady (one of his wins), Manning and Rodgers. Brees is also pretty much a flawless passer, though I wouldn't have considered him the 'best'.

And frankly, I think it's going to get easier and easier to find credible QB play as we go forward which is why it really wouldn't surprise me to see the pendulum swing back towards defenses a little bit. Remember - if everyone's special, than nobody's special.

It's absolutely more critical than it's ever been to have good quarterback play but the funny thing is that it might now be less critical than ever to have elite quarterback play because of how the rule changes have bunched up the ranks. Suddenly the gap between the historic and the good (say, Montana and Ken O'Brien) is more easily bridged because the rules now allow the Ken O'Brien's of the world (Eli Manning) to hide their flaws.

It's really a fascinating time to evaluate the position and I could be way the hell off; it's just a thought.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For no reason.

The dirty little secret is that it isn't necessary to have an elite QB to win like so many or saying. You just need to have a good quarterback to win.

Flacco ain't elite. Eli ain't elite. Big Ben ain't elite. Those guys are good in their own ways but each of them have massive holes in their games. Look at the list of SB winners and sure you have good QBs winning all of them.

But in recent history there have been maybe 3 instances of the best QB in football winning the SB - Brady (one of his wins), Manning and Rodgers. Brees is also pretty much a flawless passer, though I wouldn't have considered him the 'best'.

And frankly, I think it's going to get easier and easier to find credible QB play as we go forward which is why it really wouldn't surprise me to see the pendulum swing back towards defenses a little bit. Remember - if everyone's special, than nobody's special.

It's absolutely more critical than it's ever been to have good quarterback play but the funny thing is that it might now be less critical than ever to have elite quarterback play because of how the rule changes have bunched up the ranks. Suddenly the gap between the historic and the good (say, Montana and Ken O'Brien) is more easily bridged because the rules now allow the Ken O'Brien's of the world (Eli Manning) to hide their flaws.

It's really a fascinating time to evaluate the position and I could be way the hell off; it's just a thought.

It's almost more about fitting the skills of the guy you have or using them the most. Like you've said eloquently about Flacco, he has middling accuracy intermediate and short, so throw it deep more times. Offsets each other.

I think the elite QB's will always give you the BEST chance, but I think, like you said, the difference between the best and the good, isn't exactly a huge leap like it once was.