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Old 05-31-2014, 12:57 PM   #1
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Old 05-31-2014, 01:41 PM   #2
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Is there not holding on every play ?

At some point in the game you can throw your flag and it can determine or alter a games outcome, to say that no ref has taking money or has received some kind of comp to give and edge to another team to give them a better chance to win
or to say that not one game ever has been altered or an edge given to another team knowingly by a ref or refs is stupid.
They are human and they will and can make shitty calls at the right time be it money or friends or the hot ass BJ he received just before the game not every ref has the upmost integrity.

NBA had some shit refs back in the day
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:51 PM   #3
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Is there not holding on every play ?

At some point in the game you can throw your flag and it can determine or alter a games outcome, to say that no ref has taking money or has received some kind of comp to give and edge to another team to give them a better chance to win
or to say that not one game ever has been altered or an edge given to another team knowingly by a ref or refs is stupid.
They are human and they will and can make shitty calls at the right time be it money or friends or the hot ass BJ he received just before the game not every ref has the upmost integrity.

NBA had some shit refs back in the day
There's a huge difference between saying what you just said and saying that there is a conspiracy in which the NFL fixes games in order to favor big market teams and/or appease the television networks. The point of the OP is that the NFL fixes games, not that some rogue referee may have.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:31 PM   #4
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There's a huge difference between saying what you just said and saying that there is a conspiracy in which the NFL fixes games in order to favor big market teams and/or appease the television networks. The point of the OP is that the NFL fixes games, not that some rogue referee may have.
sorry got off the point of the OP , disregard my last two posts ill quit stirring the pot,
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Old 05-31-2014, 03:08 PM   #5
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsvmcc6tzE0 part 2 right here.


i like tuohy but how did he get access to all these FBI files? Also, I'm sorry but Ritchie looks pissed off and knows something we don't.
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Old 05-31-2014, 06:12 PM   #6
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manipulated,massaged,influenced aren't the same as fixed

I absolutely think that refs subconsciously favor big names in all the sports. I also think that the league wants to give big markets the best chance for success.

Any real conspiracy group would have to be very small or someone would talk, it's just human nature. No way would players,officials keep their mouth shut forever ... they would write a book or blackmail the league endlessly.
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Old 05-31-2014, 07:24 PM   #7
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Lets say I need a few points give or take and I am betting big money on NFL games, or college game, lets say any sport.

Get the best looking hot ass call girl/guy in town to get it on with a Ref and on candid camera , not an easy feat but sex rules!

Then before the game show him the tape, ask him to help out just one time or his wife and kids are sure to roll out of his life, and he really needs to get on board or other things might happen like accidents , to them or mom /dad/sis/brother

just this one time and everything goes back to normal your life is back and you have not shamed your family and your family has no accident. Leave a stack of franklins to boot just because

throw a flag to take a team out of field goal range or throw a flag to get the kicker closer for the game winning field goal

naaaa only in the movies ........... another never say never moment in the NFL
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:18 PM   #8
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Old 05-31-2014, 11:08 PM   #9
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Old 06-01-2014, 12:22 AM   #10
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The NHL is, or at least was, fixed. In 1993 ABC had a huge contract with the NHL.
The Montreal Canadiens had beaten the NY Islanders in the Eastern conference finals.
The Toronto Maple Leafs were playing the L.A. Kings in the Western finals. Who do you think ABC wanted to advance to the finals? The rest of the world knew that a Toronto/ Montreal final would have been awesome and the Leafs, at that time would have probably won.
It just so happens that Wayne Gretzky was playing for the Kings, the second largest TV market in the US.

Take a look at this tape from the game where Gretzky gives a high stick, (automatic penalty), to Toronto Captain Doug Gilmour:

Gilmour goes off to get 8 stitches while Gretzky scores the game winner.

Here's the reaction of Don Cherry:
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:11 AM   #11
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^ the mafia controls and runs the montreal canadiens. the leafs too are cursed and not allowed to win another cup, last year against boston proved that.

sorry for not writing an opening post, i just felt there was too much to type. i don't want to be labeled or considered a conspiracy theorist, i just think we can't trust these leagues and too many coincidences and perfect happy endings.

the patriots and giants superbowls were laughable, the wes welker drop, the david tyree catch with the obvious holding on the giants. favre's countless late championship game picks, KC's constant choking and blatant weird calls against them ( no denying this, always felt like there was a weird conspiracy regarding KC )
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:58 PM   #12
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Isn't the NFL legally allowed to make games more "exciting", but not allowed to ultimately fix the outcome, since their whole purpose is entertainment? The NBA obviously does this. The majority of their ****ing playoff games come down to 1 point. No way that happens without the refs keeping that shit close. This is what TV contracts do to a league. Nobody wants to watch a football team lose 43 to 8. That is a lot of ads wasted once people tune out. I guarantee that will be the last Super Bowl blow out for a while.
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Old 06-01-2014, 06:02 PM   #13
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Its gotta be fixed to keep games close...
... despite there's about as many blowouts in NFL Super Bowl history as there are close games.
... despite the league has seen many small market teams like Green Bay, New Orleans, and Indianapolis winning recently.
... despite the fact that there is about a 33% changeover in teams making the playoffs every year.
... despite the fact that there is not one shred of evidence to support the conspiracy theory that then NFL fixes games aside from the assertion that referees miss calls or make bad calls, which the NFL penalizes them for when warranted.

I love a good conspiracy theory, hell I love when they are actually proved true, but the NFL fixing outcomes is ridiculous.
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