Pick #33. Round 2. What to do?

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If we had a QB like Geno Smith in the 90s, we would have had a chance to win championships.

I haven't paid a ton of attention to your opinion on Smith, but how certain are you in him being a great, franchise QB?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I haven't paid a ton of attention to your opinion on Smith, but how certain are you in him being a great, franchise QB?

There are no certainties, but the kid has every single tool you look for and if he is coached properly, he WILL be a premier QB in the league. Top ten. Once the old guard (Brady, Manning, Brees, ETC) hangs em up he will rise up into the top five.

Tools that are elite:

poise
vision
accuracy
elusiveness in the pocket
anticipation
ball placement
intelligence

Tools that are very good:

arm strength
mobility
leadership
preparation
size
command of multiple offenses

With all of the guys tools, I simply don't see a way he busts in the NFL and that he has a high chance of being an elite quarterback.

I think the guy has taken the heat for opposing teams figuring out a West Virginia team that runs a simplified offense that has a weak offensive line and defense and that on a team like ours he can be a huge success.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by BossChief

There are no certainties, but the kid has every single tool you look for and if he is coached properly, he WILL be a premier QB in the league. Top ten. Once the old guard (Brady, Manning, Brees, ETC) hangs em up he will rise up into the top five.

Tools that are elite:

poise
vision
accuracy
elusiveness in the pocket
anticipation
ball placement
intelligence

Tools that are very good:

arm strength
mobility
leadership
preparation
size
command of multiple offenses

With all of the guys tools, I simply don't see a way he busts in the NFL and that he has a high chance of being an elite quarterback.

I think the guy has taken the heat for opposing teams figuring out a West Virginia team that runs a simplified offense that has a weak offensive line and defense and that on a team like ours he can be a huge success.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of this either. I do think he has a habit of holding onto the ball for too long. I'd put that one in the negative category. So in your opinion why are guys like Kiper, and McShay talking about how Geno isn't even top 20 in this class.

Oh, I'd downgrade the accuracy slightly. He has a tendency to miss high when he misses. He over throws a lot of deep balls.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If we had a QB like Geno Smith in the 90s, we would have had a chance to win championships.

If we had an offense that could consistently score 20 points we could have contended for championships.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we had an offense that could consistently score 20 points we could have contended for championships.

Yea in the 90's. Today, we better be able to score 30+ in the playoffs to beat NE, Balt, Houston or Denver and the Pack, Falcons or G-Men in the SB.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DTLB58

Yea in the 90's. Today, we better be able to score 30+ in the playoffs to beat NE, Balt, Houston or Denver and the Pack, Falcons or G-Men in the SB.

Not really.


If you can put up 24 plus in the playoffs, you have a damn great shot at winning.

[DTLB58]

Originally Posted by O.city

They just want the Chiefs back to the 90's Chiefs. Like it's been said on here, alot of Chiefs fans just want Arrowhead to be what it once was and the Chiefs to be good enough to get it back to that.


CP is the 1%.

Yea that was a fun party wasn't it? And someone made a ton of money.
But ya just always had that feeling it wasn't gonna be quite good enough.

We need to avoid the coach that just wants to keep it close going into the 4th Quarter so we just got a chance.

[O.city]

I'd like to see Xavier Rhodes fall into the second round.


Geno
Rhodes
Best WR left
FS
DL


Would be a way to go.

[Hootie]

at this point, briefly seeing and reading about all of the QB prospects...it's really Geno or bust at #1 for me.

He fits the mold of the "new age" QB and from what I read he's a hard worker and a film guy as well, with all of the atheticism to boot.

[O.city]

Once you have your franchise QB, drafting becomes alot easier.


You can take more flyer picks and aren't really handicapped into picks. You can set your board and just sit and see what happens.

[Hootie]

for Christ's sake if we take Geno at #1 and Murray is there at #34 and we take him to sign me the **** up...what's the worst that happens? Geno explodes and we turn around and trade Murray in 3 years for a good pick?

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

for Christ's sake if we take Geno at #1 and Murray is there at #34 and we take him to sign me the **** up...what's the worst that happens? Geno explodes and we turn around and trade Murray in 3 years for a good pick?

I'm not opposed to doing whatever necessary to trade back into the back half of the 1st and taking Murray and taking Geno 1st. One of those two will be a star. And potentially both. Plus it will build immediate competition. Geno wouldn't get a free pass as #1 QB right away.

[Sorter]

BPA.

Personally, if a highly rated guy who can play he 3-tech falls, I'd take him over a WR or DB.

Those would be my next 2 options though.

[Hootie]

take 3 god damn QB's next draft for all I care

[Hootie]

I still don't think we have a necessary need at WR unless Bowe is gone...these receivers don't have a god damn shot in the world with the play we have at QB.

Look at Indy last year with Painter and shit at QB...all those guys sucked and Reggie Wayne clearly "lost a step."

Look at what guys like Donny Avery and T.Y. Hilton are doing with Luck (and Wayne is back to full beast mode)...

I think Dexter and Baldwin still have a shot to be good, sorry for alerting Clay to this thread so he can muddy it up.