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Old 10-20-2019, 11:32 PM  
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Mayor Pete is the president we need

Dude's a sharp and deep thinker and a clear communicator. He's got a great way to focus on what needs to be done, and has no time for the kind of demagoguery you see from Warren / Sanders.

And he isn't to show his age like Biden.

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Old 10-21-2019, 07:56 AM   #31
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You said Mayor Pete is farther to the Left than any of the other candidates.
I never said that, you dipshit.

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I simply pointed out that your statement is 100% incorrect, and I provided a specific example to prove it. The fact the Buttigieg is to the left of YOU doesn't mean he is to the left of all of the other candidates.
Moron.

Those links support what I said. The country is split on healthcare and “Pubkic Option” is absolutely NOT the center point.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:45 AM   #32
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I kid, here is him and his spouse:



I can't figure out why he only looks happy with despots.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:58 AM   #33
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I'm guessing that opinion is formed by MSM, coastal bias that middle America wants an extreme version of progressive politics. These are the same people scratching their heads about why Biden has such high numbers even though nobody seems to really want him.

Progressives are idiots if they continue to treat middle America as flyover country because that's a huge reason Trump got elected. Pete is one of 4 candidates who gets that. The others being Biden, Klobuchar, yang. The only reason he hasn't taken the Biden vote yet is that those voters don't know yet if Pete has the experience to win the general election.
Your "concern" is noted.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:02 AM   #34
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I'm guessing that opinion is formed by MSM, coastal bias that middle America wants an extreme version of progressive politics. These are the same people scratching their heads about why Biden has such high numbers even though nobody seems to really want him.

Progressives are idiots if they continue to treat middle America as flyover country because that's a huge reason Trump got elected. Pete is one of 4 candidates who gets that. The others being Biden, Klobuchar, yang. The only reason he hasn't taken the Biden vote yet is that those voters don't know yet if Pete has the experience to win the general election.
Stop saying things that are accurate and make sense.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:05 AM   #35
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Your "concern" is noted.
No post sums up exactly what he's saying like this smug out of touch contemptuous dismissal.

Your awareness of reality continues to be sub-par, which explains why nothing ever plays out like you think it will.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:14 AM   #36
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:27 AM   #37
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No post sums up exactly what he's saying like this smug out of touch contemptuous dismissal.

Your awareness of reality continues to be sub-par, which explains why nothing ever plays out like you think it will.
Color me surprised you agree with "concern" trolls who think anything other than center right is "out of touch" and believes the right wing slander that "progressives treat fly over country badly".

Its just "pro Republican" nonsense that requires ignoring actual policy positions to fret and be concerned over upsetting the status quo.

Again, all the data and evidence shows that Republicans win elections when voter turnout is depressed. Voter turnout gets depressed when Democrats run a candidate that is seen as Republican-lite, the type of candidates like Biden. Democrats win elections when they actually run someone with liberal and progressive policies that get their base to turn up to the booth. Liberals/Rural progressives want the same thing coastal progressives want, an actual progressive candidate.

And after 2016, not at lot of us are going to listen to the "concern" of idiots who ignore all the evidence that says this.
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Buttigieg's biggest problem is the fact that he's gay. I think it's probably insurmountable.

There is a certain percentage of the population who absolutely won't vote for him under any circumstances, because he is gay. That's a pretty big obstacle to overcome.
Agreed. We don't need a POTUS with faulty wiring.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:32 AM   #41
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I've listened to a lot of what this guy says, and
heard a lot about his positions. It seems like
he is trying to be a new moderate - between the
likes of Bernie and Kamala Harris and get
to a new Democratic middle ground. He may
get that overton window moved to the left or be
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up the polling ladder this guy can climb, but if
the voters to his left wise up, he could kick some
ass in the primary, maybe be a king maker or VP.
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:33 AM   #42
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Pete has a good presentation and is an articulate and eloquent speaker. Outside of that, there's really not much to like and I'm not sure why you seem to hold him in such high esteem. If he didn't have good charisma he would be completely unremarkable.
Obviously I disagree, but having good presentation is an important part of politics! If you can communicate your ideas more effectively you can get more done. And his proposed policies are more reasonable and nuanced than "**** the billionaires"

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He can't seem to run a small 100,000 population city very well so what makes me think he can run the best country in the world?

I doubt if he would even get a second term if he tried for mayor.

Say no to the homo.
Well he already got re-elected with like 70+% of the vote so

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Why? Does the Oval Office need redecorating or something?
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Buttigieg's biggest problem is the fact that he's gay. I think it's probably insurmountable.

There is a certain percentage of the population who absolutely won't vote for him under any circumstances, because he is gay. That's a pretty big obstacle to overcome.
Sure, there are anti-gay bigots, as we can see ITT, but how many of those would have otherwise voted for the democrat? I'm guessing most of them are Rs harboring secret crushes on trump
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:33 AM   #43
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I kid, here is him and his spouse:



I can't figure out why he only looks happy with despots.
So you prefer endless war instead of Peace, I see. Never figured you for a NeoCon ( NeoProg in your case but the same thing). Sometimes we have to work with less than savory characters. However, Putin has acted like the adult in the room in the Middle East.
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He’s far left on every single issue. He’s significantly further left than Barack Obama. What do you mean, “moderate”? He can’t be a moderate when he takes extreme positions on every single issue.
Like Obama before him, Pete Buttigieg is able to speak like a moderate while holding radial positions. Buttigieg is just more exposed on his radicalism because the democrat primary environment is much more openly radical. But they both have the same ability to gloss over those specific radical positions with soothingly moderate-sounding generalities that sound specific.
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