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Old 04-29-2006, 02:22 PM   #1
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DE: Slight surprise with Hali. Most people thought Kansas City would go with a cornerback – especially after Hali's stock seemed to be slipping after some personal visits. But the Chiefs sorely need another impact pass-rusher and Hali is a high-effort guy. Not the most explosive off the edge, but he's going to outwork most players. For a defense needing good, solid players, Hali is as good a choice considering the other options available. - 3:32 pm EDT

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It is a reach.........when a guy is expected to go between 25-35.......it's a reach.
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Old 04-29-2006, 02:24 PM   #2
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It is a reach.........when a guy is expected to go between 25-35.......it's a reach.
"Expected" by whom?
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:11 AM   #3
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You know what, we needed a pass rusher. This guy is a good one. Pass defense begins and ends with the rush. I swear we could of drafted Jesus Christ himself and some of you would complain that we took him too soon. It is what it is, and I think we took a very safe, solid pick at #20.
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:14 AM   #4
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You know what, we needed a pass rusher. This guy is a good one. Pass defense begins and ends with the rush. I swear we could of drafted Jesus Christ himself and some of you would complain that we took him too soon. It is what it is, and I think we took a very safe, solid pick at #20.
There was a reason that most draft insiders had him slotted to go in the second round.
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:17 AM   #5
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There was a reason that most draft insiders had him slotted to go in the second round.
I imagine it was the empirical nature of the draft.
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:19 AM   #6
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I imagine it was the empirical nature of the draft.
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:18 AM   #7
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There was a reason that most draft insiders had him slotted to go in the second round.
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While I hate the pick I'm not going to give a fat frog's ass what "insiders" thought about it...
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:20 AM   #8
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There was a reason that most draft insiders had him slotted to go in the second round.
They also said Reggie Bush would be pick #1. Any before 9:15 A.M. PST on draft day is nothing but speculation. This was a solid pick. It gives offenses someone else to worry about other than J. Allen. I don't care what any of you nay sayers say, this could help us in a major way.
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:25 AM   #9
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They also said Reggie Bush would be pick #1. Any before 9:15 A.M. PST on draft day is nothing but speculation. This was a solid pick. It gives offenses someone else to worry about other than J. Allen. I don't care what any of you nay sayers say, this could help us in a major way.
I really do hope that he becomes a great player. I only saw him in college a couple of times, and on the NFL network. I just didn't see a first round draft pick. But I am obviously no expert.

I love the Chiefs, and desperately want them to win a SB before I die. With CP as the GM, that will never happen. [Please Carl, make me eat those words.]
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:32 AM   #10
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I really do hope that he becomes a great player. I only saw him in college a couple of times, and on the NFL network. I just didn't see a first round draft pick. But I am obviously no expert.

I love the Chiefs, and desperately want them to win a SB before I die. With CP as the GM, that will never happen. [Please Carl, make me eat those words.]

This I can't help but agree with you on. But I think rnd 1 and rnd 2 were good picks, and filled holes that needed filling desperately.

All I want for is for the offense to hold on one more year, and for once our defense to stand up for themselves. Tired of a pansy ass defense that no one respects. Maybe Hali and Allen become one of the most feared DE duos in the league with a LB crew to back them up, assuming Bell realises that he is playing football and decides to do something about it.
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You know what, we needed a pass rusher. This guy is a good one. Pass defense begins and ends with the rush. I swear we could of drafted Jesus Christ himself and some of you would complain that we took him too soon. It is what it is, and I think we took a very safe, solid pick at #20.
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A post from another site about Hali....WIP or whatever.

Tamba Hali: Inside Info
I've been a Penn State fan for over 25 years. In addition, I'm lucky enough to have some contacts inside the PSU program. Let me give you the REAL skinny on Hali:

1) Tamba was the #1 ranked DE at the Sr. Bowl and named the North's Defensive MVP. The general concensus among OLmen at the Sr. Bowl was that Hali was the toughest DE to block. While most collegiate DEs try and beat you with their athleticism (ala Lawson and Mario) on outside speed rushers, Hali truley mixes it up. He has a VERY low center of gravity and immense leverage. He plays much bigger than his 6'2" frame. In addition, he plays both the pass and run very well. He is a total football player, not just a sack specialist.

2) As for a poor showing at the NFL combine, that is total nonsense considering that he DID NOT even perform at the combine! Instead, he performed at PSU's proday. This is where it gets interesting. Tamba's stock fell because of his "smallish" size and "poor" performance. #1) His size is his size for better or worse. At PSU, he played at 265. As I said earlier, he does play big for his size (big hands, large wingspan, great lower body leverage). #2) His "poor" performance was really a product of Mike Mayock's report on NFL Network. Mayock reported that Hali ran a 4.84 40 and this is the number that other media outlets picked up. For the life of me, I can't confirm which scout he got this number from. FWIW, the coaching staff at PSU was quite miffed about that number. The concensus among GMs and scouts had Tamba clocked in the low 4.70s and his low time was actually a 4.63.

3) Tamba is really a hybrid DE. He's not a speed rusher nor a bull rusher. He can do both. In addition, he plays both the run and pass well. His best attribute is his conditioning and desire. He seems to get better as the game goes on. He will give you guys 100% on every play. I can honestly say that he's my favorite DE in PSU history. You guys got a gem
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