Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 73

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

Messier · 08-16-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

You just said that Chiefs fans don't have decades of learned pessimism, though.

I don't think they do. Playoff failure stings. I don't think it's the same demoralizing beat down as not getting a whiff in more than a generation.

Recently it's been bad, sure. Do you look back on the '90s with utter embarrassment?

keg in kc · 08-16-2013, 11:14 AM

The Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in 20 years. For the last 15 years simply making the playoffs has been a rarity. Since 1998 they have a single, solitary 13-win season (which was a full decade ago), two 10-win seasons, two 9-win seasons and a single .500 year. On the flip side they have 9 losing seasons including two 2-win seasons and two 4-win seasons.

One thing I didn't realize: in all that time they've had back-to-back winning seasons just once (2005-2006). Whereas they've had concurrent losing seasons 3 times (2000-2001, 2007-2009 and 2011-2012) and were under .500 5 of the last 6 years.

I don't see how the fanbase can't be demoralized at this point. There are now adult Chiefs fans who can't even remember the team's last playoff win. If they were even alive for it.

The 90s are a memory that grows more distant every day, and it won't be all that long before the Vermeil years begin to fade that way, as well. I know they've already started to for me.

jd1020 · 08-16-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I don't think they do. Playoff failure stings. I don't think it's the same demoralizing beat down as not getting a whiff in more than a generation.

Recently it's been bad, sure. Do you look back on the '90s with utter embarrassment?

Do I look back at the 90's and care? Nope. That team was the Colts of the 90's, only problem was they never won a SB.

You're an idiot if you think Chiefs fans have nothing to be pessimistic about. The Royals may have it worse but both teams leave reason for their fans to doubt that they will ever amount to shit.

Marcellus · 08-16-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

False comparison. Logic fail.

Not at all. Perfect example of simplistic thinking.

keg in kc · 08-16-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not at all. Perfect example of simplistic thinking.

Except for the fact that you didn't even grasp what my thinking was. If you were trying to parody yourself, though, then kudos.

**RealSNR** · 08-16-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Not at all. Perfect example of simplistic thinking.

Splatbass would rather have 7-9 than a 2-12 season plus Pioli getting fired.

It has NOTHING to do with preferences in music, and it has everything to do with not being able to look to the future for the GOOD of something you love.

Messier · 08-16-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Do I look back at the 90's and care? Nope. That team was the Colts of the 90's, only problem was they never won a SB.

You're an idiot if you think Chiefs fans have nothing to be pessimistic about. The Royals may have it worse but both teams leave reason for their fans to doubt that they will ever amount to shit.

Where did I say anything about Chiefs fans having nothing to be pessimistic about?

aturnis · 08-16-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Dumb.

reeruned

Messier · 08-16-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

reeruned

Yes.

aturnis · 08-16-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I don't think they do. Playoff failure stings. I don't think it's the same demoralizing beat down as not getting a whiff in more than a generation.

Recently it's been bad, sure. Do you look back on the '90s with utter embarrassment?

Right here.

Marcellus · 08-16-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Except for the fact that you didn't even grasp what my thinking was. If you were trying to parody yourself, though, then kudos.

Not really it goes like this -

Just because you cant actively root for your team to lose does not mean you don't want a franchise QB.

The 2 things are not mutually inclusive.

There are people that believe they are, and thats ridiculous. Period.

You don't want the team to lose = you are perfectly happy with the last 20 years of Chiefs football and don't care if we ever get a franchise QB.

It just not that simple.And this is coming from someone who rooted like hell to lose out in 2012 because I knew it was Pioli's ticket out the door.

simplistic
oversimplifying complex problems; making unrealistically simple judgments or analyses

9er guy · 08-16-2013, 01:02 PM

"Alex vs Geno! It's on!"

No it's not....

Setsuna · 08-16-2013, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

"Alex vs Geno! It's on!"

No it's not....

Get out of this thread. You bring nothing to the discussion.

Messier · 08-16-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Right here.

Thank you.

SanDiego49er · 08-16-2013, 03:31 PM

Alex will. He's experienced. On a team on the rise. With a good coaching staff. Geno might not even make it. Plus Geno is on a bad team.

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	The Chiefs haven't won a playoff game in 20 years. For the last 15 years simply making the playoffs has been a rarity. Since 1998 they have a single, solitary 13-win season (which was a full decade ago), two 10-win seasons, two 9-win seasons and a single .500 year. On the flip side they have 9 losing seasons including two 2-win seasons and two 4-win seasons. One thing I didn't realize: in all that time they've had back-to-back winning seasons just once (2005-2006). Whereas they've had concurrent losing seasons 3 times (2000-2001, 2007-2009 and 2011-2012) and were under .500 5 of the last 6 years. I don't see how the fanbase can't be demoralized at this point. There are now adult Chiefs fans who can't even remember the team's last playoff win. If they were even alive for it. The 90s are a memory that grows more distant every day, and it won't be all that long before the Vermeil years begin to fade that way, as well. I know they've already started to for me. Last edited by keg in kc; 08-16-2013 at 11:23 AM..
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