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Old 07-14-2016, 09:43 AM   #1
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I think you guys are also (and understandably) only grading these guys on their highlight reel catching/running ability.

Gronk is also an elite blocker. Unlike some of these other guys, he's no liability on running plays, and he can also blow a guy up before he goes out into his pattern.

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He's a great blocker (anyone should be at that size) but that's a horrible play to showcase it. Suggs didn't even see him.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:32 AM   #2
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He's a great blocker (anyone should be at that size) but that's a horrible play to showcase it. Suggs didn't even see him.

First one I found on Youtube.

And Jimmy Graham probably would've failed at it, somehow.
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:32 AM   #3
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I think you guys are also (and understandably) only grading these guys on their highlight reel catching/running ability.

Gronk is also an elite blocker. Unlike some of these other guys, he's no liability on running plays, and he can also blow a guy up before he goes out into his pattern.

(right side of screen)
Well, yeah.

I'm not gonna compare the blocking ability of a TE to that of a wr.
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:41 AM   #4
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FTR, PFF had an AFC prediction that put KC at #6 with a 9-7 record. Due to seeding we'd be on the outside looking in the playoff picture.

They cited our OL and secondary shuffles as well as a more competitive division as reasons for a letdown season.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:36 AM   #5
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Nah, Skins have D Jax and Reed. They're both ballers.

Garçon is still serviceable.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:43 AM   #6
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Nah, Skins have D Jax and Reed. They're both ballers.

Garçon is still serviceable.
They also just drafted Doctson in the 1st, who could step in and be a great #2 off the bat.
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Old 07-14-2016, 11:46 AM   #7
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They also just drafted Doctson in the 1st, who could step in and be a great #2 off the bat.

Potential is great, but it's just potential.

And almost no WR anywhere in the league steps in and is a great starter "off the bat". It's very rare, as it usually takes a year or two to adjust to the pro game. Not always, but almost always.
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Potential is great, but it's just potential.

And almost no WR anywhere in the league steps in and is a great starter "off the bat". It's very rare, as it usually takes a year or two to adjust to the pro game. Not always, but almost always.
Lol it's literally happened every year for the past few.

Besides, I just thought it was worth mentioning.
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Lol it's literally happened every year for the past few.

Besides, I just thought it was worth mentioning.

Sure, for like one guy out of the dozen drafted.

There are also busts every year.
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Nah, Skins have D Jax and Reed. They're both ballers.

Garçon is still serviceable.

So D Jax / Reed / Garcon >> Gronk / Bennett / Edelman / Amendola?

Yeah, no.

IMHO anyway.
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So D Jax / Reed / Garcon >> Gronk / Bennett / Edelman / Amendola?



Yeah, no.



IMHO anyway.

I think it's debatable. I was more speaking to your statement that the Skins are one good guy and a bunch of warm bodies.
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I think it's debatable. I was more speaking to your statement that the Skins are one good guy and a bunch of warm bodies.

It's a fair point. Reed is better than a warm body. Garcon is better than average, I guess, but not great. One great year, but otherwise nothing terribly exciting.
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So D Jax / Reed / Garcon >> Gronk / Bennett / Edelman / Amendola?

Yeah, no.

IMHO anyway.
The only issue is health. Gronk and amendola are both injury prone. If Gronk goes down that offense changes significantly.
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The only issue is health. Gronk and amendola are both injury prone. If Gronk goes down that offense changes significantly.

No question.
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So D Jax / Reed / Garcon >> Gronk / Bennett / Edelman / Amendola?

Yeah, no.

IMHO anyway.
Last Year Stats:

Gronk - 1,100 Yard - 11 TD's
Amendola - 650 Yards - 3 TD's
Edelman - 700 Yards - 7 TD's
Bennett - 440 Yards - 3 TD's

VS

Reed - 950 Yards - 11 TD's
Garcon - 770 Yards - 6 TD's
Desean - 528 Yards - 4 TD's (was hurt)

Career Stats:
Desean - 7,800 Yards - 42 TD's (8 years in league; 1 full year GP missed)
Garcon - 6,000 Yards - 34 TD's (8 Years in league)
Reed - 1,900 yards - 14 TD's (3 years in league; 1 of those IR)

VS

Gronk - 5,600 Yards - 65 TD's (6 years in league; almost 1 1/2 seasons missed)
Bennet - 3,600 Yards - 23 TD's (8 Years in league)
Amendola -3,200 Yards - 13 TD's (7 years in league; Two seasons missed)
Edelman - 3,400 yards - 21 TD's (7 Years in league; 1 season missed)
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