Do you think the NFL is "rigged?"

[cosmo20002]

Pretty simple question: Do you think the NFL is "rigged?"

Specifically, do you believe the NFL has a preferred outcome for games AND orders its officiating crews to make calls for/against teams for the purpose of achieving that preferred outcome?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

No. But favorable players get favorable calls. Peyton Manning vs Bernard Pollard, who do you think will get the call. Brady vs Suh... pretty much any QB and the majority of wr's over db's.

Bad example - Pollard has a history and those 2 personal fouls on Pollard yesterday were well earned.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

And desired player match ups, i.e. Brady vs. Manning in the AFC Championship.

So Brady vs. Manning (two of the best QBs ever) in the AFC Championship is most likely the result not of being great players on good teams, but of NFL manipulation?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by scho63

I don't think the NFL is rigged but I do think the refs feel pressure from certain teams and superstar players to call more penalties on their behalf.

Yesterday there were at least two HORRIBLE calls that probably changed the outcome of the game.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Browns at the end of the game that gave the Pats a first and goal.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Vikings when the Ravens player tripped on his own that negated a game ending INT for the Vikings with little time left.

I heard there were a few more but probably not as big as these two.

I think this year's referees have been some of the worst I've ever seen. The roughing the passer call on Flowers earlier this year when he brushed feet with the QB was so bad.

I think the NFL has a problem developing because it's getting worse, not better.

There have been alot of bad calls this year. The Pats got screwed earlier this year as well though.

Also I think some NFL refrees are horrible, for example Jeff Triplett. He should have been fired along time ago. He is ****ing awful.

How is Jeff Triplette still an NFL referee? Triplette has been an NFL referee since 1999. He has consistently been the worst ref in the business. What we usually see from Triplette is general incompetence, things like what he did last week in Washington, when he failed to notice that the down marker had wrongly been changed to first down late in the game. But what we saw on Sunday in Cincinnati was even worse: Triplette used replay to reverse a correct ruling on the field, giving the Bengals a touchdown that they didn’t actually score. Colts defensive tackle Josh Chapman tripped Cincinnati’s BenJarvus Green-Ellis in the backfield, and he was correctly ruled down on the field. But Triplette somehow looked at the replay and called it a touchdown. After the game, Triplette was asked if Chapman tripped Green-Ellis, and Triplette answered, “I don’t know about that.” Um, Jeff? It’s your job to know. It’s totally unacceptable that the NFL keeps trotting Triplette out there, week after week, when he simply isn’t up to the task of being an NFL referee.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Oh yeah.

How else can you explain Denver winning with Tebow?

Good point, the NFL made things happen like the CHI RB making a poor decision that led to that comeback. Keep trying though.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

But when are those penalties called? Are they drive killers that take points off the board-no. Their Oline blatantly holds every play and also they run the illegal pick plays- The NFl want to see pizza boy in the SB and will do whatever it takes to make it happen.

Yesterday the broncos had a TD taken off the board by a penalty.
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[lawrenceRaider]

The Pats get far more than their share of game saving calls.

Also, it sure seemed like the NFL had the Saints scheduled for a Superbowl win the year they won. Gave them free reign to batter Favre in the NFC Champ game, and still had to get a Favre brain fart to win. Game wouldn't have come down to that play if thay had whistled the Saints for all the late hit/unnecessary roughness on Favre the entire game.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Bad example - Pollard has a history and those 2 personal fouls on Pollard yesterday were well earned.

Huh pollard hit decker with the shoulder pad. How was that well earned?

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

So Brady vs. Manning (two of the best QBs ever) in the AFC Championship is most likely the result not of being great players on good teams, but of NFL manipulation?

Not total manipluation but key calls at key times can change a game.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

Huh pollard hit decker with the shoulder pad. How was that well earned?

Because it was against the Donx. Legal in every other instance. Just watch a Denver game and take note of all the tick- tack BS calls that extend drives. Yesterday when the Titans were up and had Denver pinned deep, there were a couple. All it takes is a few when they're struggling then LOOK OUT because when they get on a roll, the other team can't recover. Get a couple a game and it's HUGE for that offense.

On the flip side watch all the illegal pick plays that get ignored (I'm not talking about the legal rubs). So funny to listen to the commentators. My favorite line from yesterday was,"Denver has the perfect play for that particular situation." Hell yeah they do!

[TEX]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Not total manipluation but key calls at key times can change a game.

You are EXACTLY correct. The Pats got a BS PI call VERY late in the game yesterday that changed the outcome. The commentators didn't agree to a man and said that you MUST let the DB's play or they have no chance. Also said it could have been a make-up from how they got robbed in Carolina a couple weeks ago.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The Pats get far more than their share of game saving calls.

Also, it sure seemed like the NFL had the Saints scheduled for a Superbowl win the year they won. Gave them free reign to batter Favre in the NFC Champ game, and still had to get a Favre brain fart to win. Game wouldn't have come down to that play if thay had whistled the Saints for all the late hit/unnecessary roughness on Favre the entire game.

1) Iirc only one of the hits Favre took would have been anywhere close to unnecessary roughness.

2) Favre going to the Superbowl would have been a Much bigger story than the Saints in 2009. Would make zero sense for the league to rig that.

3) The Vikings lost because of Favre not because of the refs.
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[TEX]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yesterday the broncos had a TD taken off the board by a penalty.
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Explain it though and what eventually happened?

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Proof that certain teams get BS calls

[plbrdude]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead

Proof that certain teams get BS calls

what was the call there, the flag was on the ground before the hit

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Originally Posted by plbrdude

what was the call there, the flag was on the ground before the hit

I believe they called holding on the titans, which was declined and the broncos took the 15 yard personal foul