Chiefs Chiefs better get a New DB fast. Denver and Wes ? - Page 17

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03:02 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Wes Welker has agreed to terms with Denver Broncos.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

Wes Welker lands a two-year, $12 million deal from the Broncos. Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, Wes Welker. Have fun, Peyton.

**Easy 6** · 03-13-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Welker is more dangerous, more of a difference maker than any receiver in this league...

No, he's not... if he was such a gamebreaker, the pats offense wouldnt have put up a measly 13 points against baltimore, even without gronk.

He's an excellent slot guy who's quick out of his breaks and has great hands... but without other players helping keep the heat off of him, he's easily accounted for and contained.

He's a great complementary player, but not a true difference maker who can line up anywhere and consistently win that battle.

Mile High Mania · 03-13-2013, 03:55 PM

Here's my thought on the Welker signing...

It doesn't fix their problems from 2012 and what ultimately cost them the playoff game vs BAL. Denver's defense has improved a lot over the last 2 seasons, but there's still work to be done - holes to be filled.

However, a big part of what makes Manning successful is having lots of weapons and working the slot receiver. Welker is an amazing addition as a slot receiver and while it wasn't a top priority, how do you pass on the opportunity at that price? It was a no-brainer signing to me and yes, Welker has a lot of wear and tear, but he's far from being old and washed up.

This signing makes their offense more lethal... which they'll need if when they get caught up in shoot outs, which they will in 2013 if they don't make a major upgrade in the secondary.

All in all ... not a lot to point at and laugh at with this signing.

Exoter175 · 03-13-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

No, he's not... if he was such a gamebreaker, the pats offense wouldnt have put up a measly 13 points against baltimore, even without gronk.

He's an excellent slot guy who's quick out of his breaks and has great hands... but without other players helping keep the heat off of him, he's easily accounted for and contained.

He's a great complementary player, but not a true difference maker who can line up anywhere and consistently win that battle.

You're going to compare this guys' career, against a single game against Baltimore?

Get out.

Clyde Frog · 03-13-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

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Per PFF, Denver had the #5, #10, and #28 rated CBs last season. 3 starting quality CBs is pretty rare.

PFF also says they looked amazing against the Ravens. Really stepped it up that game...

Amnorix · 03-13-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WV

Wrong...unless it's a great one....pass rush doesn't stop Brady or Manning. Welker has nothing to do with it.

Well, actually he does. He gets open so quick, is great at hot reads and is in such good sync with his QB, he goes a long way towards reducing the effectiveness of a blitz or very good pass rush.

**notorious** · 03-13-2013, 03:57 PM

The best WR in the NFL doesn't settle for 12 million over 2 years.

Mile High Mania · 03-13-2013, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free

No, he's not... if he was such a gamebreaker, the pats offense wouldnt have put up a measly 13 points against baltimore, even without gronk.

He's an excellent slot guy who's quick out of his breaks and has great hands... but without other players helping keep the heat off of him, he's easily accounted for and contained.

He's a great complementary player, but not a true difference maker who can line up anywhere and consistently win that battle.

I think that's why he's a great difference maker. Recently, in NE with the injuries at TE - Welker was 'the man' in the passing game. He's not built to be "the man", he's built to be an amazing "other weapon" and that's exactly what he's set up to be in Denver with Thomas, Decker and Tamme. That is a nice 4-some in the passing game, one of the best going into 2013.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find 3 other teams with a better "4" in their passing attacks.

**BossChief** · 03-13-2013, 03:58 PM

If I'm John Dorsey, I would have made some calls and tried to get Wes Welker.

**** Donnie Avery.

I would have no problem giving Wes a 2 year 14-15 million dollar deal.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 03-13-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

cry

Why do you cry when people say Brady is better than Manning? What can you do about it? They are both HOFers and better than what the chiefs have

Amnorix · 03-13-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Wes brought the offer back to NE and they didn't match it.

They offered 2 years 10 million and wouldn't budge.

That seems amazing, and stupid, to me.

Exoter175 · 03-13-2013, 03:59 PM

Most seasons, 10+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004
Most seasons, 15+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004
Most seasons, 20+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004
Most seasons, 25+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004
Most seasons, 30+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003
Most seasons, 35+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003
Most seasons, 40+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003
Most seasons, 45+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003
Most seasons, 50+ pass receptions: 17, Jerry Rice 1986–2003
Most seasons, 55+ pass receptions: 17, Jerry Rice 1986–2003
Most seasons, 60+ pass receptions: 17, Jerry Rice 1986–2003
Most seasons, 65+ pass receptions: 15, Jerry Rice 1986–2002
Most seasons, 70+ pass receptions: 13, Jerry Rice 1986–2002, Tony Gonzalez 1999-2012
Most seasons, 75+ pass receptions: 13, Jerry Rice 1986–2002
Most seasons, 80+ pass receptions: 12, Jerry Rice 1986-2002
Most seasons, 85+ pass receptions: 7, Jerry Rice 1986-2002, Marvin Harrison 1999-2006, Cris Carter 1993-2000
Most seasons, 90+ pass receptions: 6, Torry Holt 2002–2007, Marvin Harrison 1999-2006, Jerry Rice 1990-2002
Most seasons, 95+ pass receptions: 5, Jerry Rice 1990–1996, Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Wes Welker 2007-2012
Most seasons, 100+ pass receptions: 5, Wes Welker 2007-2012
Most seasons, 105+ pass receptions: 5, Wes Welker 2007-2012
Most seasons, 110+ pass receptions: 5, Wes Welker 2007–2012
Most seasons, 115+ pass receptions: 3, Wes Welker 2009-2012
Most seasons, 120+ pass receptions: 2, Cris Carter 1994–1995, Wes Welker 2009-2011

Most games, 1+ reception, career: 296, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 2+ receptions, career: 284, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 3+ receptions, career: 256, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 4+ receptions, career: 213, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 5+ receptions, career: 166, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 6+ receptions, career: 128, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 7+ receptions, career: 86, Jerry Rice 1985-2004
Most games, 8+ receptions, career: 51, Marvin Harrison 1996-2008
Most games, 9+ receptions, career: 32, Marvin Harrison 1996-2008
Most games, 10+ receptions, career: 18, Wes Welker 2007–present
Most games, 11+ receptions, career: 12, Marvin Harrison 1999-2004, Wes Welker 2007-present
Most games, 12+ receptions, career: 9, Wes Welker 2007–present
Most games, 13+ receptions, career: 5, Wes Welker 2007–present
Most games, 14+ receptions, career: 3, Jason Witten 2007–present
Most games, 15+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present, Wes Welker 2009–present, Jason Witten 2007–present
Most games, 16+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present
Most games, 17+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present
Most games, 18+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present

I see two names come up very often.

Nope, don't worry guys, Wes Welker is overrated, and a product of his system.

**notorious** · 03-13-2013, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

That seems amazing, and stupid, to me.

Yep.

Mile High Mania · 03-13-2013, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

Well, actually he does. He gets open so quick, is great at hot reads and is in such good sync with his QB, he goes a long way towards reducing the effectiveness of a blitz or very good pass rush.

Exactly, how many 2-5 yard passes did he catch from Brady over the years? That's another way you rack up 5 out of 6 seasons with over 110 receptions - move the chains. Welker is not a #1 receiver... that's not his role.

Exoter175 · 03-13-2013, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

The best WR in the NFL doesn't settle for 12 million over 2 years.

The most dangerous and productive one just did.

Amnorix · 03-13-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

In this NFL today, there is no other receiver in this league as dangerous as he has been with the Patriots.

You are out of your ****ing mind. Just for the record.

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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3697229	Here's my thought on the Welker signing... It doesn't fix their problems from 2012 and what ultimately cost them the playoff game vs BAL. Denver's defense has improved a lot over the last 2 seasons, but there's still work to be done - holes to be filled. However, a big part of what makes Manning successful is having lots of weapons and working the slot receiver. Welker is an amazing addition as a slot receiver and while it wasn't a top priority, how do you pass on the opportunity at that price? It was a no-brainer signing to me and yes, Welker has a lot of wear and tear, but he's far from being old and washed up. This signing makes their offense more lethal... which they'll need if when they get caught up in shoot outs, which they will in 2013 if they don't make a major upgrade in the secondary. All in all ... not a lot to point at and laugh at with this signing. __________________
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Exoter175 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10003166	Most seasons, 10+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004 Most seasons, 15+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004 Most seasons, 20+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004 Most seasons, 25+ pass receptions: 19, Jerry Rice 1985–2004 Most seasons, 30+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003 Most seasons, 35+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003 Most seasons, 40+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003 Most seasons, 45+ pass receptions: 18, Jerry Rice 1985–2003 Most seasons, 50+ pass receptions: 17, Jerry Rice 1986–2003 Most seasons, 55+ pass receptions: 17, Jerry Rice 1986–2003 Most seasons, 60+ pass receptions: 17, Jerry Rice 1986–2003 Most seasons, 65+ pass receptions: 15, Jerry Rice 1986–2002 Most seasons, 70+ pass receptions: 13, Jerry Rice 1986–2002, Tony Gonzalez 1999-2012 Most seasons, 75+ pass receptions: 13, Jerry Rice 1986–2002 Most seasons, 80+ pass receptions: 12, Jerry Rice 1986-2002 Most seasons, 85+ pass receptions: 7, Jerry Rice 1986-2002, Marvin Harrison 1999-2006, Cris Carter 1993-2000 Most seasons, 90+ pass receptions: 6, Torry Holt 2002–2007, Marvin Harrison 1999-2006, Jerry Rice 1990-2002 Most seasons, 95+ pass receptions: 5, Jerry Rice 1990–1996, Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Wes Welker 2007-2012 Most seasons, 100+ pass receptions: 5, Wes Welker 2007-2012 Most seasons, 105+ pass receptions: 5, Wes Welker 2007-2012 Most seasons, 110+ pass receptions: 5, Wes Welker 2007–2012 Most seasons, 115+ pass receptions: 3, Wes Welker 2009-2012 Most seasons, 120+ pass receptions: 2, Cris Carter 1994–1995, Wes Welker 2009-2011 Most games, 1+ reception, career: 296, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 2+ receptions, career: 284, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 3+ receptions, career: 256, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 4+ receptions, career: 213, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 5+ receptions, career: 166, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 6+ receptions, career: 128, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 7+ receptions, career: 86, Jerry Rice 1985-2004 Most games, 8+ receptions, career: 51, Marvin Harrison 1996-2008 Most games, 9+ receptions, career: 32, Marvin Harrison 1996-2008 Most games, 10+ receptions, career: 18, Wes Welker 2007–present Most games, 11+ receptions, career: 12, Marvin Harrison 1999-2004, Wes Welker 2007-present Most games, 12+ receptions, career: 9, Wes Welker 2007–present Most games, 13+ receptions, career: 5, Wes Welker 2007–present Most games, 14+ receptions, career: 3, Jason Witten 2007–present Most games, 15+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present, Wes Welker 2009–present, Jason Witten 2007–present Most games, 16+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present Most games, 17+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present Most games, 18+ receptions, career: 2, Brandon Marshall 2008–present I see two names come up very often. Nope, don't worry guys, Wes Welker is overrated, and a product of his system.
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