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Old 03-08-2015, 06:29 PM  
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:39 AM   #1471
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:48 AM   #1472
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Hmmm....I'd have preferred they'd have loaded a little more of that into year 1 and year 5. By giving him, say, $2 million more in year 1, maybe he'd have let us put another $3 million in year 5 and we could drop the burdens in years 2 and 3 a bit.

It's not ideally structured but it's not crippling either. That signing bonus is WAY lower than I thought it was so realistically you could escape after 3 years if need be with nominal damage done. Unlike Bowe's deal, he doesn't appear to have any guaranteed salary in there so if you're just accelerating 2 years of signing bonus then you're only talking about $5 million in dead money if you cut him after year 3.

We traded some affordability up front for escapability in year 4. I can live with that.
In todays market, it looks like a damn good contract for a top ten FA WR.
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Old 03-12-2015, 07:51 AM   #1473
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$22.5 million fully guaranteed for Maclin at signing

Posted by Mike Florio on March 12, 2015, 8:16 AM EDT

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In most cases the “guaranteed” money a player reportedly will receive is more (often much more) than the fully guaranteed money he’ll get. For Chiefs receiver Jeremy Maclin, those numbers are the name.

Per a source with knowledge of the contract, Maclin’s $22.5 million guaranteed is fully guaranteed, via a $12 million signing bonus and fully guaranteed base salaries of $750,000 in 2015 and $9.75 million in 2016.

The rest of the contract consists of base salaries of $9.75 million in 2017, $10.75 million in 2018, and $10.75 million in 2019, and annual workout bonuses of $250,000.

The cap numbers are $3.4 million in 2015, $12.4 million in 2016, and $12.4 million in 2017, $13.4 million in 2018, and $13.4 million in 2019.

It’s a two-year, $22.5 million deal with an annual team option on the remaining $32.5 million over three.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:35 AM   #1474
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I would submit that having a crappy oline first and foremost hinders the ability to throw deep. Chiefs obviously need to address that. I'm not saying Smith is gonna start chucking it down field every play if we upgrade the oline. But I think last year was a step back for his development under Reid due to the terrible play of the oline. I think he showed that he was willing to throw deep and he could become a very good QB the last few games of 2013 and the playoff game.
Outstanding post. Fix the OL to be middle of the pack.. that and with the WR corps in September and healthy (maclin + aside from whatever happens with Bowe, and assuming a rd 1-3 rookie is added)? things can get back on track to resemble and eclipse that of the 2nd half of 2013.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:44 AM   #1475
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In todays market, it looks like a damn good contract for a top ten FA WR.
Yeah, and by making it such a low number in year one, they effectively have reduced the year 2 number via the cap rollover provisions. Any cap space saved in year 1 carries over into year 2 and to some degree reduces that amount. That cap rollover completely changes how contracts should be structured.

I keep thinking "Y'know, maybe we should just outright cut Bowe rather than June 1 him so we aren't carrying his dead money next year" but then I remember that the June 1 cut on him would free up a bunch of cap this year that, if unused, would just carry over to next year and end up offsetting that dead money anyway. So the added flexibility to deal with something like a front-loaded offer sheet to Houston would be huge.

If you're savvy about how you use those rollovers, you can really do some nimble cap maneuvering.

I'm still just surprised by how easy the Chiefs can get out of that deal. Hell, even if everything goes sour on it, they can get out after 2 years and end up about where they are with Bowe right now - eating $9 million in accelerated cap and that's it. To get an AAV of $11 million with a signing bonus that low off the open market with teams like Oakland desperately trying to find places to spend hard cash is a damn good deal.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:51 AM   #1476
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[QUOTE=DJ's left nut;11377900]Yeah, and by making it such a low number in year one, they effectively have reduced the year 2 number via the cap rollover provisions. Any cap space saved in year 1 carries over into year 2 and to some degree reduces that amount. That cap rollover completely changes how contracts should be structured.

I keep thinking "Y'know, maybe we should just outright cut Bowe rather than June 1 him so we aren't carrying his dead money next year" but then I remember that the June 1 cut on him would free up a bunch of cap this year that, if unused, would just carry over to next year and end up offsetting that dead money anyway. So the added flexibility to deal with something like a front-loaded offer sheet to Houston would be huge.

If you're savvy about how you use those rollovers, you can really do some nimble cap maneuvering.

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Really good part of your post. Agreed.
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:44 AM   #1477
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Old 03-12-2015, 03:04 PM   #1478
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So what are the excuses for Maclin if he does not replicate the stats with Smith?
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So what are the excuses for Maclin if he does not replicate the stats with Smith?
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Old 03-13-2015, 12:52 PM   #1480
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Man you guys overpaid by 3-4 million per season for this guy,,, but he can get some space on the field, but Alex "Timid" Smith still will struggle to get the ball to him.
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So what are the excuses for Maclin if he does not replicate the stats with Smith?
I don't think he will replicate the stats he had last year in 2015. He was the primary target in a up tempo offense. KC's offense isn't up tempo and I'd be surprised if Kelce, in now his second year, isn't still the primary target. I'd expect that Kelce will see 1000 yards before Maclin. But I do think with the upgraded line (with another moderate piece or two) and the upgraded WR core (with another moderate piece or two) should put Smith and Reid in a good position to succeed to the point that if those pieces fall into place, there will be no more excuses.

If the pieces fall into place, this is what Smith fans have been hoping for since year one.

- 3 years in same system (This will be the first for Smith - 2 years was actually a novelty)
- 3 years with same coaching staff (This will be a first for Smith - 2 years was actually a novelty)
- Decent (not all pro) offensive line
- Good (not necessarily pro-bowl) weapons...

Chiefs knock all those into place, I'll offer no excuses if Smith doesn't perform well.

*** edit. Sorry. After re-reading I saw that the question was "what excuse will Maclin have". That's easy, if Maclin doesn't live up to expectation, his excuse will be Alex Smith.
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You wanna see overpaid?

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