Chiefs Decision to be made on #1 four days before draft - Page 11

penbrook · 04-01-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Pretty much.

How are we zeroed in on Joeckel?? Right now its BPA. Thats Geno however Fisher > Joeckel

Mother****erJones · 04-01-2013, 08:20 PM

We very well may have zeroed in on Joeckel. Ill be the never say never guy. I still like the fact that McNabb was taken number 2 in a draft where he was rated, if im not mistaken, the worst of the top QBs taken. Ill keep my slimmer of hope alive. I wont be irate if we dont Geno though. Ill trust this regime

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-01-2013, 08:46 PM

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.

B14ckmon · 04-01-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.

Geno was great his year in the pro style offense. But that was in a shitrific conference. Though they did play LSU/NC State/Pitt.

Saccopoo · 04-01-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford was a better project than Geno. Period.

He didn't just have a better arm, he had three years of increasingly productive play in the premiere college conference while playing in a pro-style offense.

Stafford never passed for better than 61% in college (and he was a shitty 52 and 55% his first two years).

51 TDs to 33 Ints.

That's not Geno level numbers - and he had a running game and defense to support him.

He has a cannon. But there is also a reason that the Lions made Calvin Johnson the richest man in the NFL - because Stafford still has no touch and needs a guy like Johnson to make those plays downfield.

Right now, he's Culpepper with Moss.

He was drafted that high for the same reason guys like Jamarcus Russell, Jay Cutler and Kyler Boller were drafted high - huge arm.

But let's not make it out like he was the second coming of Elway. He wasn't.

Mother****erJones · 04-01-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Stafford never passed for better than 61% in college (and he was a shitty 52 and 55% his first two years).

51 TDs to 33 Ints.

That's not Geno level numbers - and he had a running game and defense to support him.

He has a cannon. But there is also a reason that the Lions made Calvin Johnson the richest man in the NFL - because Stafford still has no touch and needs a guy like Johnson to make those plays downfield.

Right now, he's Culpepper with Moss.

He was drafted that high for the same reason guys like Jamarcus Russell, Jay Cutler and Kyler Boller were drafted high - huge arm.

But let's not make it out like he was the second coming of Elway. He wasn't.

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

Mr_Tomahawk · 04-01-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

Yup.

Mother****erJones · 04-01-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Yup.

I still like the kid. I like his confidence but I still dont get how you can complete 71% and he's called very inconsistent. Maybe theyre talking about deep ball. But SOME deep balls are kind of a luck pass. Alex Smith has been a good deep ball passer FWIW

Saccopoo · 04-01-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Im a Geno supporter but Im sure his compl % was inflated due to screen passes that he threw alot

Matt Stafford:

6.8
7.3
9.0

Geno Smith

6.3
7.4
8.3
8.1

Yards per attempt.

Oh, and watch this game (just Geno's passes):

Talk to me about screen passes.

Mother****erJones · 04-01-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Matt Stafford:

6.8
7.3
9.0

Geno Smith

6.3
7.4
8.3
8.1

Yards per attempt.

Oh, and watch this game (just Geno's passes):

Talk to me about screen passes.

I did watch Geno this year some and he did throw alot of screen passes.

Gravedigger · 04-01-2013, 09:24 PM

Well to be honest... that was against KU. Maybe a better example of an opponent would be better.

Mother****erJones · 04-01-2013, 08:47 PM

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Gravedigger · 04-01-2013, 09:11 PM

The game your OC draws up for you is the game your OC draws up for you. If his deep schemes aren't there but he has a check down available you want him to force the deep pass just to satisfy the masses and show off his arm? How do you think he kept his Int's down? He made the smarter decision to not force the situation, knowing that they would eventually come up to guard against the dump off and he could bomb it to Austin or Bailey. Alex Smith checks down alot, as did Cassel, but you know something that Geno can do that those other guys can't? Throw the ball 60 yards down the field when the opportunity arises and have some semblance of a deep threat. You want to dock Geno for taking the smart throw? Just drop that shit.

Bewbies · 04-01-2013, 09:11 PM

This place gets ****ing dumber every day. Jags fans arguing with Pats fans arguing with Bronco fans arguing about what the Chiefs will do.

Plus our local reeruns help em all out.

Mother****erJones · 04-01-2013, 09:12 PM

Damn Andrew Luck change your last name

my bad guys

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Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $7243101	The game your OC draws up for you is the game your OC draws up for you. If his deep schemes aren't there but he has a check down available you want him to force the deep pass just to satisfy the masses and show off his arm? How do you think he kept his Int's down? He made the smarter decision to not force the situation, knowing that they would eventually come up to guard against the dump off and he could bomb it to Austin or Bailey. Alex Smith checks down alot, as did Cassel, but you know something that Geno can do that those other guys can't? Throw the ball 60 yards down the field when the opportunity arises and have some semblance of a deep threat. You want to dock Geno for taking the smart throw? Just drop that shit.
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