***Senior Bowl Week*** - Page 7

**BossChief** · 01-23-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This Nassib bullshit has got to stop. The dude is as overrated in the pre-draft circus as Tony Pike was.

I could see the bills using their second rounder on him. Coaching connection and all.

ChiefsCountry · 01-23-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I could see the bills using their second rounder on him. Coaching connection and all.

Jets in the second round.

Sfeihc · 01-23-2013, 08:18 PM

What are his red flags as you see them, Hamas? I like the kid if the value is right in the draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-23-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc

What are his red flags as you see them, Hamas? I like the kid if the value is right in the draft.

The biggest flag is that the value wouldn't be right for him because he has been overrated.

I watched Syracuse fist Missouri's secondary and at no point was I in awe of Nassib. He had a completely clean pocket all night and through the first three quarters produced 10 points of offense. If not for the CB's inability to attempt to cover Alec Lemon and Steckel's refusal to allow Gaines to cover him, they lose that game.

He's a guy benefiting from the perception of a lack of depth at QB. He is to this draft as the "Not-Romney" guys were to the GOP primary.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-23-2013, 08:28 PM

To the person who wanted to know about Zaviar Gooden, here is my response: he was better as a sophomore than he was as a senior. Perhaps that's a result of playing with two complete stiffs at LB, but I have my doubts.

O.city · 01-23-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

To the person who wanted to know about Zaviar Gooden, here is my response: he was better as a sophomore than he was as a senior. Perhaps that's a result of playing with two complete stiffs at LB, but I have my doubts.

Is he likely to even get drafted? Could he be good depth? Pass rusher?

For all the games of MU I watched, I can't for the life of me remember.

Chiefnj2 · 01-23-2013, 10:02 PM

Tough to evaluate the QBs. In most of the drills the DBs were holding/pulling/yanking/interfering throughout the entire route. Wilson seemed to have the most completions. Jones seemed to be off (even without pressure), and Manuel was up and down.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-23-2013, 11:42 PM

http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2013practice6.php

2013 Senior Bowl: Wednesday Practice Report (South Team)

By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell

The Detroit Lions' coaching staff ran Wednesday's South team practice with the players in full pads.

There were a number of standouts in this South practice. Arkansas quarterback Tyler Wilson, Tennessee tight end Mychal Rivera, Louisiana Tech wide receiver Quinton Patton and Georgia defensive tackle John Jenkins were all very impressive.

The running backs and the linebackers went one-on-one in pass-blocking drills in the early portion of practice. Florida running back Mike Gillislee started strong with a resounding win against Texas A&M linebacker Sean Porter. Gillislee followed that by losing a rep to Stanford's Chase Thomas. He rocked Gillislee off balance with a big hit before storming to the quarterback marker. Later, the Gators' back ran a nice route on a pass-receiving rep and made a tough catch along the sideline with Porter trailing behind.

Stanford running back Stepfan Taylor had a win against Missouri's Zaviar Gooden, but may have gotten away with a hold. Taylor had a great block, riding and sustaining the contact, against Florida State linebacker Vince Williams.

Both Taylor and Gillislee ran the ball well in the team scrimmage. On the first rep, Gillislee darted to the right side for a good gain. Taylor, for his part, bounced a run to the outside for gain of about 10 yards. The defense came back to stuff a few runs from both backs.

Gillislee ripped off a 40-yard run toward the very end of the team scrimmage when he jab-stepped to get through a hole to the right. Gillislee was then able to juke Alabama safety Robert Lester about 10 yards into the run to get in the open field. Lester took a terrible angle and set himself up for that.

Gillislee was running along the sideline before he was rocked flat on his back by Georgia safety Shawn Williams. Even though Gillislee was sent flying, it was still the best run of the day. Both he and Taylor have helped themselves this week.

The defensive and offensive lines devoted a lot of time to one-on-one battles on Wednesday. Chase Thomas got those started by beating Florida tackle Xavier Nixon with a spin move. On the rematch, Nixon held Thomas up after a good push. Nixon also had an impressive win mirroring a speed rush versus BYU defensive end Ezekiel Ansah.

There was a lot of karate chopping going on during that matchup, and Nixon appeared to hurt his hand while Ansah may have been poked in the eye. Both players took a short break after that rush before returning in the team scrimmage.

Louisiana Tech tackle Jordan Mills was chippy all day, blocking until the very end and coming close to some fights. He started well by putting Clemson defensive end Malliciah Goodman in the turf, but Goodman took the rematch with a speed rush. Mills had a draw going against Ansah.

There were some really good battles between Kentucky guard Larry Warford and Georgia defensive tackle John Jenkins. Both players are very strong and heavy, yet retain surprising athleticism. The first rep was a draw as Jenkins got some pressure, but didn't finish the rush. Jenkins then beat Warford with a fast and powerful bull rush, but Warford won the next rep by stopping a bull rush cold at the line of scrimmage. The Wildcat standout had an impressive win in which he knocked South Florida tackle Corey Grissom to the ground.

Jenkins split two reps with California's Brian Schwenke. The first rep saw Schwenke anchor well against a bull rush; Jenkins let his pad level get too high. The rematch saw Jenkins correct the mistake as he drove Schwenke straight back through the quarterback marker in an instant. It was an angry bull rush that got a reaction from the crowd. Jenkins has really performed well in Mobile, and that has improved his draft stock.

Oklahoma tackle Lane Johnson had back-to-back wins against Goodman, pushing him down on the second. Johnson kept making things look easy by shutting down two rushes from LSU's Lavar Edwards. Johnson stopped Edwards in his drop and just kept him far from the pocket. There is no doubt that Johnson has had a tremendous Senior Bowl and has really helped himself.

Virginia offensive tackle Oday Aboushi lost the first rep as Edwards got leverage on him. Aboushi was able to mirror him on during the rematch before tying up a speed rush by Edwards. Aboushi also had two impressive wins against Montori Hughes on which he moved Hughes to the outside. Aboushi later beat Goodman when he held him straight up, but then only drew on the rematch. Aboushi looked better overall on Wednesday than he did on Tuesday.

The front seven had some success stuffing runs in the team scrimmage. For one, Jenkins swallowed up Gillislee at the line of scrimmage on one carry. Williams, on the other hand, had some massive hits on Wednesday and blasted running backs for no gain on consecutive plays. Alabama's Nico Johnson, Vince Williams, Gooden and Lester all chipped in tackles for no gain as well. Meanwhile, Porter flew into the backfield to hammer Miami running back Mike James.

Perhaps the most impressive play of practice came when Ansah skied into the air to deflect a pass from Florida State quarterback E.J. Manuel. The deflected ball floated long enough for Gooden to be able to snatch it for an interception. Ansah got incredibly high to deflect that pass, and it looked like a play he made in BYU's bowl game last month. Ansah really displayed his explosiveness.

The defense didn't completely dominate though, as Warford blasted open a big hole for Taylor to rip off a big run. Gillislee and Taylor both had a number of positive carries.

Tyler Wilson had success moving the ball, including a great throw to hit Rivera on a crossing route between two defenders. Wilson went back to Rivera on a rollout since the Volunteer tight end was open in zone-coverage running across the field. Wilson also moved the ball well with a number of short completions.

Overall, Wilson has had a good week. He demonstrated shown accuracy, arm strength, ball security and good decision-making. The quarterback pecking order for the 2013 NFL Draft remains to be figured out, but Wilson has helped his cause.

Oklahoma quarterback Landry Jones had a few missed opportunities in this practice. Among the good things for him was when he connected with Georgia wide receiver Tavarres King on a curl route. However, Jones also had an overthrow of a back on a short crossing route that was a gimme completion with room to run. Later, Jones had Rivera wide open running down the field, but lofted the ball too far for another poor incompletion. Jones really hasn't improved his stock this week.

Manuel got his work going via a nice connection with Louisiana Tech wide receiver Quinton Patton on a quick slant. Manuel also telegraphed a throw that was deflected by Gooden for an incompletion. The best completion from Manuel came when he lofted a pass into Alabama tight end Michael Williams, who was open against Lester. It was a good throw for Manuel to just get it over leaping linebacker Vince Williams.

Patton had an excellent practice. He was phenomenal in the one-on-ones. Patton started with a great catch over Alabama safety Robert Lester. Patton the beat Lester again; this time making a great falling catch over Lester in the end zone. It was a well-thrown pass by Jones from about 45 yards away.

Wednesday was the final padded practice for the South squad prior to the Senior Bowl on Saturday.

ChiefMojo · 01-24-2013, 06:30 AM

Basically the two top QB's this week have been Tyler Wilson and Mike Glennon. The thing is Glennon doesn't fit us even if he were a option... he is a Air Coryell type of QB, while we are a WCO team now. Wilson has definitely put himself into the discussion along with Smith and to an extent Barkley. We will know where Barkley completely stands after the Combine and Pro Days.

Yes Talib is local in a sense. Went to KU but is from Dallas originally. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Coach Reid like bigger CB's historically? Some of the top CB's this week have been Trufant from Washington, Poyer from Oregon State, Taylor from Boise State, etc. They guys could be had from 2nd to 3rd round if I were to guess. Two other CB's that had their moments to keep a eye on are Rob Alford and B.W Webb.

A few ILB I have had my eye on are Reddick from UNC and Johnson from FSU to go along with Klein from ISU from last weekends Shrine Bowl game. Then there is always Teo'....

A couple S's to keep a eye on is Cyprien from FlU and McDonald from USC. These two have seem to sky rocket up the boards to be in the same discussion with the likes of Elam (UF), Rambo (Georgia) and Reid (LSU).

A interesting NT to keep a eye on is the Williams kid out of Missouri Southern. He has performed very well this week.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-24-2013, 07:11 AM

I really like Mike Gillislee. I was screaming for him to get reps @ Florida and it took Urban Meyer leaving for Mike to get his chance. He tore it up this year and I think he can do well in the NFL. Not for the Chiefs, though. He'll get drafted much higher than KC can afford to spend a pick on a RB.

ChiefMojo · 01-24-2013, 08:01 AM

A late round or UDFA RB I like is Michael Hill out of Missouri Western. Hill is 5'11", 210 (4.5) that ran for over 2,000 yards this season.... Tore up the Raycom game with around 150 yards rushing and at least 2 TD's.

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-24-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

A late round or UDFA RB I like is Michael Hill out of Missouri Western. Hill is 5'11", 210 (4.5) that ran for over 2,000 yards this season.... Tore up the Raycom game with around 150 yards rushing and at least 2 TD's.

There are ALWAYS late round or UDFA RBs available. Always. Last year I liked Tauren Poole. Two years ago Stevan Ridley. Three years ago ago I was high on Montario Hardesty and Charles Scott. Four years ago my favorite was Arian Foster.

This year I like Zac Stacy, Spencer Ware, Theo Riddick, Washaun Ealey, and for a change of pace back Chris Thompson

Sorter · 01-24-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

A late round or UDFA RB I like is Michael Hill out of Missouri Western. Hill is 5'11", 210 (4.5) that ran for over 2,000 yards this season.... Tore up the Raycom game with around 150 yards rushing and at least 2 TD's.

Yeah, I just looked him up. Not bad.

Frosty · 01-24-2013, 08:12 AM

NFLN talked to Gus Bradley during the North practice yesterday. I was pretty impressed with him. I like the Reid hire but I kind of wish the Chiefs had hired Bradley. I guess time will tell which was the right choice, though I know Clark would have had a hard time selling a first time head coach after the ***** and Crennel disaster.

htismaqe · 01-24-2013, 09:53 AM

Sorter and I have been Nassib fans for a long time but neither of us think he's anything more than a 2nd-round pick.

Like Hamas said, he's benefitting from the lack of clarity in this class and thus his stock is being inflated.

He's a solid QB but he's got limited upside because he just doesn't operate well when he's "the man".

He's a high-end game manager, really.

01-23-2013, 08:18 PM	#3
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01-23-2013, 08:28 PM	#5
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7989572	To the person who wanted to know about Zaviar Gooden, here is my response: he was better as a sophomore than he was as a senior. Perhaps that's a result of playing with two complete stiffs at LB, but I have my doubts. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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01-23-2013, 10:02 PM	#7
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7863688	Tough to evaluate the QBs. In most of the drills the DBs were holding/pulling/yanking/interfering throughout the entire route. Wilson seemed to have the most completions. Jones seemed to be off (even without pressure), and Manuel was up and down. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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01-23-2013, 11:42 PM	#8
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $742813	http://walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2013practice6.php 2013 Senior Bowl: Wednesday Practice Report (South Team) By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell The Detroit Lions' coaching staff ran Wednesday's South team practice with the players in full pads. There were a number of standouts in this South practice. Arkansas quarterback Tyler Wilson, Tennessee tight end Mychal Rivera, Louisiana Tech wide receiver Quinton Patton and Georgia defensive tackle John Jenkins were all very impressive. The running backs and the linebackers went one-on-one in pass-blocking drills in the early portion of practice. Florida running back Mike Gillislee started strong with a resounding win against Texas A&M linebacker Sean Porter. Gillislee followed that by losing a rep to Stanford's Chase Thomas. He rocked Gillislee off balance with a big hit before storming to the quarterback marker. Later, the Gators' back ran a nice route on a pass-receiving rep and made a tough catch along the sideline with Porter trailing behind. Stanford running back Stepfan Taylor had a win against Missouri's Zaviar Gooden, but may have gotten away with a hold. Taylor had a great block, riding and sustaining the contact, against Florida State linebacker Vince Williams. Both Taylor and Gillislee ran the ball well in the team scrimmage. On the first rep, Gillislee darted to the right side for a good gain. Taylor, for his part, bounced a run to the outside for gain of about 10 yards. The defense came back to stuff a few runs from both backs. Gillislee ripped off a 40-yard run toward the very end of the team scrimmage when he jab-stepped to get through a hole to the right. Gillislee was then able to juke Alabama safety Robert Lester about 10 yards into the run to get in the open field. Lester took a terrible angle and set himself up for that. Gillislee was running along the sideline before he was rocked flat on his back by Georgia safety Shawn Williams. Even though Gillislee was sent flying, it was still the best run of the day. Both he and Taylor have helped themselves this week. The defensive and offensive lines devoted a lot of time to one-on-one battles on Wednesday. Chase Thomas got those started by beating Florida tackle Xavier Nixon with a spin move. On the rematch, Nixon held Thomas up after a good push. Nixon also had an impressive win mirroring a speed rush versus BYU defensive end Ezekiel Ansah. There was a lot of karate chopping going on during that matchup, and Nixon appeared to hurt his hand while Ansah may have been poked in the eye. Both players took a short break after that rush before returning in the team scrimmage. Louisiana Tech tackle Jordan Mills was chippy all day, blocking until the very end and coming close to some fights. He started well by putting Clemson defensive end Malliciah Goodman in the turf, but Goodman took the rematch with a speed rush. Mills had a draw going against Ansah. There were some really good battles between Kentucky guard Larry Warford and Georgia defensive tackle John Jenkins. Both players are very strong and heavy, yet retain surprising athleticism. The first rep was a draw as Jenkins got some pressure, but didn't finish the rush. Jenkins then beat Warford with a fast and powerful bull rush, but Warford won the next rep by stopping a bull rush cold at the line of scrimmage. The Wildcat standout had an impressive win in which he knocked South Florida tackle Corey Grissom to the ground. Jenkins split two reps with California's Brian Schwenke. The first rep saw Schwenke anchor well against a bull rush; Jenkins let his pad level get too high. The rematch saw Jenkins correct the mistake as he drove Schwenke straight back through the quarterback marker in an instant. It was an angry bull rush that got a reaction from the crowd. Jenkins has really performed well in Mobile, and that has improved his draft stock. Oklahoma tackle Lane Johnson had back-to-back wins against Goodman, pushing him down on the second. Johnson kept making things look easy by shutting down two rushes from LSU's Lavar Edwards. Johnson stopped Edwards in his drop and just kept him far from the pocket. There is no doubt that Johnson has had a tremendous Senior Bowl and has really helped himself. Virginia offensive tackle Oday Aboushi lost the first rep as Edwards got leverage on him. Aboushi was able to mirror him on during the rematch before tying up a speed rush by Edwards. Aboushi also had two impressive wins against Montori Hughes on which he moved Hughes to the outside. Aboushi later beat Goodman when he held him straight up, but then only drew on the rematch. Aboushi looked better overall on Wednesday than he did on Tuesday. The front seven had some success stuffing runs in the team scrimmage. For one, Jenkins swallowed up Gillislee at the line of scrimmage on one carry. Williams, on the other hand, had some massive hits on Wednesday and blasted running backs for no gain on consecutive plays. Alabama's Nico Johnson, Vince Williams, Gooden and Lester all chipped in tackles for no gain as well. Meanwhile, Porter flew into the backfield to hammer Miami running back Mike James. Perhaps the most impressive play of practice came when Ansah skied into the air to deflect a pass from Florida State quarterback E.J. Manuel. The deflected ball floated long enough for Gooden to be able to snatch it for an interception. Ansah got incredibly high to deflect that pass, and it looked like a play he made in BYU's bowl game last month. Ansah really displayed his explosiveness. The defense didn't completely dominate though, as Warford blasted open a big hole for Taylor to rip off a big run. Gillislee and Taylor both had a number of positive carries. Tyler Wilson had success moving the ball, including a great throw to hit Rivera on a crossing route between two defenders. Wilson went back to Rivera on a rollout since the Volunteer tight end was open in zone-coverage running across the field. Wilson also moved the ball well with a number of short completions. Overall, Wilson has had a good week. He demonstrated shown accuracy, arm strength, ball security and good decision-making. The quarterback pecking order for the 2013 NFL Draft remains to be figured out, but Wilson has helped his cause. Oklahoma quarterback Landry Jones had a few missed opportunities in this practice. Among the good things for him was when he connected with Georgia wide receiver Tavarres King on a curl route. However, Jones also had an overthrow of a back on a short crossing route that was a gimme completion with room to run. Later, Jones had Rivera wide open running down the field, but lofted the ball too far for another poor incompletion. Jones really hasn't improved his stock this week. Manuel got his work going via a nice connection with Louisiana Tech wide receiver Quinton Patton on a quick slant. Manuel also telegraphed a throw that was deflected by Gooden for an incompletion. The best completion from Manuel came when he lofted a pass into Alabama tight end Michael Williams, who was open against Lester. It was a good throw for Manuel to just get it over leaping linebacker Vince Williams. Patton had an excellent practice. He was phenomenal in the one-on-ones. Patton started with a great catch over Alabama safety Robert Lester. Patton the beat Lester again; this time making a great falling catch over Lester in the end zone. It was a well-thrown pass by Jones from about 45 yards away. Wednesday was the final padded practice for the South squad prior to the Senior Bowl on Saturday. __________________
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01-24-2013, 06:30 AM	#9
ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	Basically the two top QB's this week have been Tyler Wilson and Mike Glennon. The thing is Glennon doesn't fit us even if he were a option... he is a Air Coryell type of QB, while we are a WCO team now. Wilson has definitely put himself into the discussion along with Smith and to an extent Barkley. We will know where Barkley completely stands after the Combine and Pro Days. Yes Talib is local in a sense. Went to KU but is from Dallas originally. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Coach Reid like bigger CB's historically? Some of the top CB's this week have been Trufant from Washington, Poyer from Oregon State, Taylor from Boise State, etc. They guys could be had from 2nd to 3rd round if I were to guess. Two other CB's that had their moments to keep a eye on are Rob Alford and B.W Webb. A few ILB I have had my eye on are Reddick from UNC and Johnson from FSU to go along with Klein from ISU from last weekends Shrine Bowl game. Then there is always Teo'.... A couple S's to keep a eye on is Cyprien from FlU and McDonald from USC. These two have seem to sky rocket up the boards to be in the same discussion with the likes of Elam (UF), Rambo (Georgia) and Reid (LSU). A interesting NT to keep a eye on is the Williams kid out of Missouri Southern. He has performed very well this week. Last edited by ChiefMojo; 01-24-2013 at 06:40 AM..
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01-24-2013, 07:11 AM	#10
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $6724952	I really like Mike Gillislee. I was screaming for him to get reps @ Florida and it took Urban Meyer leaving for Mike to get his chance. He tore it up this year and I think he can do well in the NFL. Not for the Chiefs, though. He'll get drafted much higher than KC can afford to spend a pick on a RB. __________________
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01-24-2013, 08:01 AM	#11
ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	A late round or UDFA RB I like is Michael Hill out of Missouri Western. Hill is 5'11", 210 (4.5) that ran for over 2,000 yards this season.... Tore up the Raycom game with around 150 yards rushing and at least 2 TD's.
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01-24-2013, 08:12 AM	#14
Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5538243	NFLN talked to Gus Bradley during the North practice yesterday. I was pretty impressed with him. I like the Reid hire but I kind of wish the Chiefs had hired Bradley. I guess time will tell which was the right choice, though I know Clark would have had a hard time selling a first time head coach after the ***** and Crennel disaster.
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01-24-2013, 09:53 AM	#15
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Sorter and I have been Nassib fans for a long time but neither of us think he's anything more than a 2nd-round pick. Like Hamas said, he's benefitting from the lack of clarity in this class and thus his stock is being inflated. He's a solid QB but he's got limited upside because he just doesn't operate well when he's "the man". He's a high-end game manager, really.
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