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Old 08-12-2014, 03:42 PM   #1
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He must have really been depressed. Think about it. He's super rich and famous. Everyone loves and respects you. He had probably exhausted every option to battle his depression for decades and still felt like his only option was suicide. THAT is ****in depression man.
He was an alcoholic. He had admitted himself into the Hazelden Addiction Treatment Center mid this year for continued treatment. Married only to his new wife three years. ( a graphic designer)

IMO alcoholics drink to suppress some pain.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:46 PM   #2
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He was an alcoholic. He had admitted himself into the Hazelden Addiction Treatment Center mid this year for continued treatment. Married only to his new wife three years. ( a graphic designer)

IMO alcoholics drink to suppress some pain from years of rooting for the Chiefs.



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Old 08-12-2014, 05:23 PM   #3
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:32 PM   #4
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He was an alcoholic. He had admitted himself into the Hazelden Addiction Treatment Center mid this year for continued treatment. Married only to his new wife three years. ( a graphic designer)

IMO alcoholics drink to suppress some pain.
I read he hadn't relapsed though. Even when he admitted himself
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:31 PM   #5
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My comments last night about suicide and cowardice was not a POV I had planned on discussing. But the subject got brought up and I went with it. And I would like to make it known that my belief is not something coming from hate or anger or any other such emotion. It is not my intention to be disrespectful or even judge mental. Suicide is a very serious issue. It is a very sad issue. But I do not believe we do ourselves or anyone else any favors by just glossing over it. Discussion of any topic is a very important tool in learning and educating.

Out side of people who are extremely advanced cases, those who suffer from these mental diseases go through periods of clarity. They realize something is not right with themselves. Hopefully they seek help and figure out the issue so they can take steps to deal with it. And if they do go to that extent then there will always be that truth in the back of their mind that what they are thinking and feeling is not true but rather, made up thoughts and emotions caused by a disease. So long as you have that truth you cannot simply plead innocence for any detrimental actions you take due to being sick. I have personally witnessed the decision to go head first into a downward spiral. I have also personally witnessed the decision to pull out of a life destroying nose dive and fight for a better and more normal life.

The notion that we should not call an action what it is because people are suffering from a mental disease so that makes it different is just ass backwards. You honestly expect me to believe that we should allow the standard of what is and what is not be set by thoughts derived from a diseased mind? Rosanne Barr's mind could tell her that she is a super model but, that doesn't make it true. Some one suffering from depression or bipolar or what have you, can tell themselves they are doing themselves and everyone else a favor but, that doesn't mean they actually are. When you know there are steps you can take to have a better and normal life and choose not to take them, your actions are selfish and cowardly. Again, I'm not trying to be mean, that is just the reality of it that some of you are not wanting to face for some reason.
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:36 PM   #6
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:51 PM   #7
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:02 PM   #9
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:26 PM   #11
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What an effective strategy. Why haven't we tried that already!
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Old 08-12-2014, 05:33 PM   #12
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Old 08-12-2014, 10:00 PM   #13
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Penalties for dealers are already substantial. Still, for the most part, we're filling our prisons with users, not dealers. How 'bout we consider treating addiction as a health problem instead of a law enforcement problem? How 'bout we start treating addicts and their disease instead of incarcerating them?
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Penalties for dealers are already substantial. Still, for the most part, we're filling our prisons with users, not dealers. How 'bout we consider treating addiction as a health problem instead of a law enforcement problem? How 'bout we start treating addicts and their disease instead of incarcerating them?
That would make too much sense.

Throwing addicts in jail instead of treating the disease of addiction is one of if not the most idiotic counterproductive things we do in this country.
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