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Old 11-22-2012, 06:44 PM   #1
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He hasn't played good defenses. He hasnt proven to be nails in the clutch consistently. His biggest successes have come out of a college oriented offense.

I didn't say he can't do these things. I am saying you are assuming he can even though we haven't seen it.

I'm the one arguing on merit. You're the one who is absolutely sure about something we haven't seen.
not like he scored 70 in the bowl game ...or lit up the #8 passing d in the country last week and almost beat Oklahoma with no defense.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:48 PM   #2
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not like he scored 70 in the bowl game ...or lit up the #8 passing d in the country last week and almost beat Oklahoma with no defense.
Never happened.
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not like he scored 70 in the bowl game ...or lit up the #8 passing d in the country last week and almost beat Oklahoma with no defense.
For a #1 qb, you are basing off a very low sample size against defenses that aren't exactly elite. It is an assumption that because he carved up Oklahoma, that means he can carve up the texans.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:57 PM   #4
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For a #1 qb, you are basing off a very low sample size against defenses that aren't exactly elite. It is an assumption that because he carved up Oklahoma, that means he can carve up the texans.
How about last year against LSU? Texas this year?

If you are gonna say he has played mostly cupcake defense, thats ok...the kid plays in a conference that isnt known for defense....but you also cant discount the games he has played very well against good defenses by touting "small sample size" either.
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How about last year against LSU? Texas this year?

If you are gonna say he has played mostly cupcake defense, thats ok...the kid plays in a conference that isnt known for defense....but you also cant discount the games he has played very well against good defenses by touting "small sample size" either.
I am not discounting them. I am saying there isn't enough evidence to say he is surely going to succeed against elite nfl defenses. We are assuming. I ASSUME he can because I think he has football iq and work ethic. But I know it is an assumption and that he hasn't proven it on the college level nearly enough. Hence, the risk.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:01 PM   #6
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I am not discounting them. I am saying there isn't enough evidence to say he is surely going to succeed against elite nfl defenses. We are assuming. I ASSUME he can because I think he has football iq and work ethic. But I know it is an assumption and that he hasn't proven it on the college level nearly enough. Hence, the risk.
All of this is true for every single player at every single position who enters the NFL draft.
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RgIII played a lot More games against tough defenses. Any qb in a major conference plays most of their games at worst against average defenses. Most of smiths career has been against really, really bad defenses. He has much less of a track record against great defenses than the average #1 prospect.
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RgIII played a lot More games against tough defenses. Any qb in a major conference plays most of their games at worst against average defenses. Most of smiths career has been against really, really bad defenses. He has much less of a track record against great defenses than the average #1 prospect.
RGIII played in the Big XII, not the SEC.
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RgIII played a lot More games against tough defenses. Any qb in a major conference plays most of their games at worst against average defenses. Most of smiths career has been against really, really bad defenses. He has much less of a track record against great defenses than the average #1 prospect.


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I am not discounting them. I am saying there isn't enough evidence to say he is surely going to succeed against elite nfl defenses. We are assuming. I ASSUME he can because I think he has football iq and work ethic. But I know it is an assumption and that he hasn't proven it on the college level nearly enough. Hence, the risk.
You are so full of shit.

Geno Smith is putting up comparable numbers against the same competition, with a far inferior cast around him that RGIII had.
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