Lakers have fired Mike Brown

[saphojunkie]

[saphojunkie]

I mean, you people realize that Shaq came into the league in the early 90's, right? I love how everyone thinks that somehow the 90's were the Paleolithic era with a bunch of 4 foot tall troglodytes shooting the ball underhanded.

There hasn't been a radical jump in human evolution in the past ten years. Yes, the guys now are bigger and stronger, but that's because they actually, you know, lift weights more. Put the 80's and 90's guys on a modern team with a modern training staff and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I mean, you people realize that Shaq came into the league in the early 90's, right? I love how everyone thinks that somehow the 90's were the Paleolithic era with a bunch of 4 foot tall troglodytes shooting the ball underhanded.

There hasn't been a radical jump in human evolution in the past ten years. Yes, the guys now are bigger and stronger, but that's because they actually, you know, lift weights more. Put the 80's and 90's guys on a modern team with a modern training staff and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Maybe, maybe not. It's not about getting to the NBA with these bodies, most of these guy start that training in grade school (same as football players).

The only people that state that the NBA was "better" in the 80's and 90's are people that don't and haven't consistently watched basketball this millennium.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I mean, you people realize that Shaq came into the league in the early 90's, right? I love how everyone thinks that somehow the 90's were the Paleolithic era with a bunch of 4 foot tall troglodytes shooting the ball underhanded.

There hasn't been a radical jump in human evolution in the past ten years. Yes, the guys now are bigger and stronger, but that's because they actually, you know, lift weights more. Put the 80's and 90's guys on a modern team with a modern training staff and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Did the 90's have a 6-8 250 lb player that could play and dominate all 5 positions?

I love MJ, Pippen, Barkley, and Shaq but today's players are just bigger, faster, stronger, and more athletic. Just like the players in the NFL have evolved.

[Shogun]

http://www.fa-mag.com/fa-news/12863-...b-impact-.html

November 08, 2012

ALAN ALDA REPLACING PHIL JACKSON AT SCHWAB IMPACT

In a last-minute development, actor Alan Alda will replace famed basketball coach Phil Jackson as the keynote speaker on the closing day of the annual Schwab Advisor Services IMPACT conference in Chicago next week, according to Bernie Clark, executive vice president, national sales manager of Schwab Advisor Services.

Alternative investments will be on the agenda when Chuck Schwab, founder of the nation’s largest RIA custodian, sits down on a panel with KKR co-founder George Roberts and managing director Scott Nuttall to discuss what role they can play in portfolios in what is expected to be a continued low interest-rate environment.

More than 3,000 financial professionals are expected to attend the event, which starts on November 13. The opening general session will feature a post-election discussion of Washington, D.C., and the outlook for the economy and financial markets led by Potomac Research Group’s Greg Valliere and Schwab’s chief investment strategist Liz Ann Sonders.

Other key topics at the conference next week include technology, the growing importance of female clients and developing the next generation of advisors, Clark said. All evidence indicates that female clients will account “for a huge number” of future clients, Clark noted, and several sessions will examine this subject in detail.

In addition, Clark said, there will be a focus on both developing the next generation of advisors and serving the next generation of clients. As RIAs continue to grow, there are more opportunities to bring in younger advisors, who can be pivotal in attracting younger clients. Schwab expects more than 50 students from universities like Texas Tech and the University of California at Irvine to attend the meeting.

Several sessions will focus on a related topic, succession planning. Moreoever, the conference will permit technology companies to display new capabilities and give advisors the chance to consult with “a growing ecosystem of support providers,” Clark noted.

[tk13]

I actually agree that people underrate the talent in the NBA today... there's some great players and teams out there.

Still, on the flipside, people act like George Mikan played in the 90s or something. There isn't a guy in the league that could guard 1994 Shaq. David Robinson was a tremendous athlete. Clyde Drexler, Karl Malone, etc... it goes back to the Dream Team arguments this summer. Maybe the current team would win, but not because they played 1950s basketball in the 90s.
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[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by tk13

I actually agree that people underrate the talent in the NBA today... there's some great players and teams out there.

Still, on the flipside, people act like George Mikan played in the 90s or something. There isn't a guy in the league that could guard 1994 Shaq. David Robinson was a tremendous athlete. Clyde Drexler, Karl Malone, etc... it goes back to the Dream Team arguments this summer. Maybe the current team would win, but not because they played 1950s basketball in the 90s.
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Depends on where you look.

The current NBA guard talent is unreal. Especially at the point guard position, and largely because the NBA outlawed hand checking so Micheal Jordan could be even more dominant which has led to point guards becoming scorers.

Big men? Please. The big man talent in the NBA in 1994 would kill the current NBA. NBA had loads of great defensive big men in the 90's. Rik Smits would kick ass in today's NBA and he was just a solid/average big man. A guy like Hakeem would be unstoppable.

[mcaj22]

i get that the talent is better. but the markets are much worse. All the talent is playing together and dictating the power of each conference every offseason. It's now generation based, probably every 10 years it will take a team to load up on young players to keep them in the same circle so they want to play together. But you see the veterans want to play with vets, the guys in their late twenties (27 to 30) all want to play together, and the real young guys coming up are all building bonds.

But teams like the Magic, Wizards, Suns, etc. There isnt a good ****ing player on any of these markets. Face of your franchise is Michael Beasley? John Wall? JJ Reddick?

those guys are not good by any stretch when you are comparing guys in the 80s and 90s that were the face of a market.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i get that the talent is better. but the markets are much worse. All the talent is playing together and dictating the power of each conference every offseason. It's now generation based, probably every 10 years it will take a team to load up on young players to keep them in the same circle so they want to play together. But you see the veterans want to play with vets, the guys in their late twenties (27 to 30) all want to play together, and the real young guys coming up are all building bonds.

But teams like the Magic, Wizards, Suns, etc. There isnt a good ****ing player on any of these markets. Face of your franchise is Michael Beasley? John Wall? JJ Reddick?

those guys are not good by any stretch when you are comparing guys in the 80s and 90s that were the face of a market.

How is that any different from the 80s and 90s? Back then, only the Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, and Pistons could win a title. All the other teams were SOL. Just like now with the Lakers, Heat, Thunder, and Celtics.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by -King-

How is that any different from the 80s and 90s? Back then, only the Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, and Pistons could win a title. All the other teams were SOL. Just like now with the Lakers, Heat, Thunder, and Celtics.

Nothing is as good as it was in the good 'ole days. Don't cha know that?

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by -King-

How is that any different from the 80s and 90s? Back then, only the Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, and Pistons could win a title. All the other teams were SOL. Just like now with the Lakers, Heat, Thunder, and Celtics.

but there are other teams that are really good and could actually compete Memphis proved itthe last few years. Along with the Spurs, say what you want, but Pop has 4 titles and a very good team. When the bulls get D. Rose back, they are going to be up there. You got up and coming teams like New York/Brooklyn. Philly should be good once Bynum comes back. There are talented teams out there. Portland got some great young players as does Houston.

A few teams draft and get some good free agent signings they will be able to compete. NOt saying they will win, but alot of teams that could compete.

Also, remember a few years ago there were like 8 teams in the west that had 50 game winning teams, something never done before. NBA is crazy loaded.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

but there are other teams that are really good and could actually compete Memphis proved itthe last few years. Along with the Spurs, say what you want, but Pop has 4 titles and a very good team. When the bulls get D. Rose back, they are going to be up there. You got up and coming teams like New York/Brooklyn. Philly should be good once Bynum comes back. There are talented teams out there. Portland got some great young players as does Houston.

A few teams draft and get some good free agent signings they will be able to compete. NOt saying they will win, but alot of teams that could compete.

Also, remember a few years ago there were like 8 teams in the west that had 50 game winning teams, something never done before. NBA is crazy loaded.

I agree with you, but I meant the teams with a legit chance of winning the title. Outside the spurs, no other team is going to challenge the top 4.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by -King-

I agree with you, but I meant the teams with a legit chance of winning the title. Outside the spurs, no other team is going to challenge the top 4.

Not this year, but them teams are young and have a chance to do that in the next few years. Thats like that pretty much for any league though. There are just elite franchises that do the right moves, then you got teams like the Chiefs and Bobcats that make the wrong choices year in and year out.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by -King-

How is that any different from the 80s and 90s? Back then, only the Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, and Pistons could win a title. All the other teams were SOL. Just like now with the Lakers, Heat, Thunder, and Celtics.

It is no different. Championships have always been controlled by a few select franchises. That certainly hasn't hurt the NBA game from being in as good shape as it has ever been right now.

[DeezNutz]

Stan Van Gundy available.

Probably Qx10.