Do you think the NFL is "rigged?"

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I set out the definition for the purposes of the poll. And now you've ruined the whole thing.

And I feel badly about that.

[mschiefs1984]

I think the NFL does have some teams get the benefit of the doubt but it's not to the point where you can't beat them. I think the NFL allows Denvers O line to get away with murder for their holds to keep Manning healthy. But I don't think they go into games saying this team has to win

[KC_Lee]

How many pick plays does Denver run every game vs. how many times the refs throw a flag. There's your answer.

[Tombstone RJ]

I totally agree. I remember a game back at camerohead where kc won after a kick return for a TD. On that play the ref was standing right in front of a Broncos player who was blocked in the back by the cheat'n chiefs. No flag. But, it gets better. There was a few more block in the backs that also didn't get flagged and kc ended up winning that game. cheat'n chiefs gonna cheat some.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I totally agree. I remember a game back at camerohead where kc won after a kick return for a TD. On that play the ref was standing right in front of a Broncos player who was blocked in the back by the cheat'n chiefs. No flag. But, it gets better. There was a few more block in the backs that also didn't get flagged and kc ended up winning that game. cheat'n chiefs gonna cheat some.

That play was too exciting to call a penalty on. It would have damaged the marketing value. Just like there's a great marketing value in having Elway win a championship as a GM, so it's going to happen. Congratulations to you on the success of your chosen NFL industrial division.

[dirk digler]

I don't think it is fixed like the WWE but I feel pretty confidant in saying that the star players get star treatment.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I don't think it is fixed like the WWE but I feel pretty confidant in saying that the star players get star treatment.

And desired player match ups, i.e. Brady vs. Manning in the AFC Championship.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

And desired player match ups, i.e. Brady vs. Manning in the AFC Championship.

So Brady vs. Manning (two of the best QBs ever) in the AFC Championship is most likely the result not of being great players on good teams, but of NFL manipulation?

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

So Brady vs. Manning (two of the best QBs ever) in the AFC Championship is most likely the result not of being great players on good teams, but of NFL manipulation?

Not total manipluation but key calls at key times can change a game.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Not total manipluation but key calls at key times can change a game.

You are EXACTLY correct. The Pats got a BS PI call VERY late in the game yesterday that changed the outcome. The commentators didn't agree to a man and said that you MUST let the DB's play or they have no chance. Also said it could have been a make-up from how they got robbed in Carolina a couple weeks ago.

[scho63]

I don't think the NFL is rigged but I do think the refs feel pressure from certain teams and superstar players to call more penalties on their behalf.

Yesterday there were at least two HORRIBLE calls that probably changed the outcome of the game.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Browns at the end of the game that gave the Pats a first and goal.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Vikings when the Ravens player tripped on his own that negated a game ending INT for the Vikings with little time left.

I heard there were a few more but probably not as big as these two.

I think this year's referees have been some of the worst I've ever seen. The roughing the passer call on Flowers earlier this year when he brushed feet with the QB was so bad.

I think the NFL has a problem developing because it's getting worse, not better.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by scho63

I don't think the NFL is rigged but I do think the refs feel pressure from certain teams and superstar players to call more penalties on their behalf.

Yesterday there were at least two HORRIBLE calls that probably changed the outcome of the game.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Browns at the end of the game that gave the Pats a first and goal.

The FAKE pass interference call on the Vikings when the Ravens player tripped on his own that negated a game ending INT for the Vikings with little time left.

I heard there were a few more but probably not as big as these two.

I think this year's referees have been some of the worst I've ever seen. The roughing the passer call on Flowers earlier this year when he brushed feet with the QB was so bad.

I think the NFL has a problem developing because it's getting worse, not better.

There have been alot of bad calls this year. The Pats got screwed earlier this year as well though.

Also I think some NFL refrees are horrible, for example Jeff Triplett. He should have been fired along time ago. He is ****ing awful.

How is Jeff Triplette still an NFL referee? Triplette has been an NFL referee since 1999. He has consistently been the worst ref in the business. What we usually see from Triplette is general incompetence, things like what he did last week in Washington, when he failed to notice that the down marker had wrongly been changed to first down late in the game. But what we saw on Sunday in Cincinnati was even worse: Triplette used replay to reverse a correct ruling on the field, giving the Bengals a touchdown that they didn’t actually score. Colts defensive tackle Josh Chapman tripped Cincinnati’s BenJarvus Green-Ellis in the backfield, and he was correctly ruled down on the field. But Triplette somehow looked at the replay and called it a touchdown. After the game, Triplette was asked if Chapman tripped Green-Ellis, and Triplette answered, “I don’t know about that.” Um, Jeff? It’s your job to know. It’s totally unacceptable that the NFL keeps trotting Triplette out there, week after week, when he simply isn’t up to the task of being an NFL referee.

[lawrenceRaider]

The Pats get far more than their share of game saving calls.

Also, it sure seemed like the NFL had the Saints scheduled for a Superbowl win the year they won. Gave them free reign to batter Favre in the NFC Champ game, and still had to get a Favre brain fart to win. Game wouldn't have come down to that play if thay had whistled the Saints for all the late hit/unnecessary roughness on Favre the entire game.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

The Pats get far more than their share of game saving calls.

Also, it sure seemed like the NFL had the Saints scheduled for a Superbowl win the year they won. Gave them free reign to batter Favre in the NFC Champ game, and still had to get a Favre brain fart to win. Game wouldn't have come down to that play if thay had whistled the Saints for all the late hit/unnecessary roughness on Favre the entire game.

1) Iirc only one of the hits Favre took would have been anywhere close to unnecessary roughness.

2) Favre going to the Superbowl would have been a Much bigger story than the Saints in 2009. Would make zero sense for the league to rig that.

3) The Vikings lost because of Favre not because of the refs.
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[durtyrute]

Originally Posted by -King-

1) Iirc only one of the hits Favre took would have been anywhere close to unnecessary roughness.

2) Favre going to the Superbowl would have been a Much bigger story than the Saints in 2009. Would make zero sense for the league to rig that.

3) The Vikings lost because of Favre not because of the refs.
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The Saints going to the Superbowl after Katrina was a MUCH bigger story than anything Favre could have done.