Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 152

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

ModSocks · 11-20-2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I tell you what I’ll make a 1 year avatar bet with you right now Berry plays in at least 6 games this season. Put up or

Noooooo don't do that.

GloryDayz · 11-20-2018, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

"A healthy Berry in there instead of Parker"

How do you know that? The man really hasn't played football in 2 years dude?

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GloryDayz · 11-20-2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Glory has gone full blackbob. Sad it is...

While you've gone full suck up. Sorry if each passing week of this guy calling in sick gets ever more frustrating. Do you think the 2016 Eric Berry helps to stop 4 points last night?

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Pasta Little Brioni · 11-20-2018, 01:34 PM

He has a severe foot injury, so no

Otter · 11-20-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I tell you what I’ll make a 1 year avatar bet with you right now Berry plays in at least 6 games this season. Put up or

There are only 5 games left in the regular season and captain day to day, too good for IR hasn't even been confirmed practicing as of yet.

Halfcan · 11-20-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Halfcan wanted to cut Allen Bailey outright last Spring.

Bailey has a career high 6 sacks this year

Bailey and Sorensen. Bailey is having a fine year no doubt, but had not done shit for three years prior. Finally, he is playing up to that contract.

Halfcan · 11-20-2018, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

How do you know that? The man really hasn't played football in 2 years dude?

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He has been taking notes on scraps of paper during games- he is plotting his big come back.

MIAdragon · 11-20-2018, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

How do you know that? The man really hasn't played football in 2 years dude?

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I’d take a cardboard cutout of Berry over Parker.

GloryDayz · 11-20-2018, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

He has a severe foot injury, so no

He had a severe foot injury in 2016? I don't recall that one. I know the lazy **** will find any excuse to not show up to work, but I missed that 2016 foot injury.

GloryDayz · 11-20-2018, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan

He has been taking notes on scraps of paper during games- he is plotting his big come back.

I think that's a Sushi order form...

GloryDayz · 11-20-2018, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

I’d take a cardboard cutout of Berry over Parker.

How many tackles does Parker have this season? How many does Berry have? My point being, so far Berry, is nothing more that a cardboard cutout.

Randallflagg · 11-20-2018, 03:33 PM

Does anyone really think he is going to suit up this season? I mean, really?

MIAdragon · 11-20-2018, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

How many tackles does Parker have this season? How many does Berry have? My point being, so far Berry, is nothing more that a cardboard cutout.

Exactly

Flying High D · 11-20-2018, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

How many tackles does Parker have this season? How many does Berry have? My point being, so far Berry, is nothing more that a cardboard cutout.

That’s a ****ing lie. A cardboard cutout would provide less resistance getting on the field than HP (homeless pussy).

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-21-2018, 01:20 AM

I'm getting genuinely worried when fans start wringing hands over the cutting of an unexceptional player like Scandrick and then try to debate that he is much more than a roster spot.

Have you forgotten how much better and more effective Reid's defense was a mere 4 years ago? You've certainly forgotten the kinds of back breaking, soul-demolishing defenses this franchise has fielded long before Reid arrived.

Is this really the kind of mediocre trash you want to field in the name of conveniently and falsely running about, spouting verbal diarrhea about how "this is an offense league and defense is a success measured only in single digit percentages"?

Are some of you completely ****ing reeruned?

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1866899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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