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Old 05-02-2013, 11:54 AM   #1
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How can you say that? Eric Einston made an impact at Right Tackle.
agreed. Every position on the oline now is critical. We are in a passing league, and if you dont think that the oline is important. Then why did 8 offensive linemen go in the first round this year. Because its becoming painfully obvious about the has, and has nots on the oline.

Not commenting to you persay because you point was zeroed in, and accurate.

There is nothing wrong with having a dominant oline, and just because its not the sexy pick, or the norm, doesnt mean it was the wrong pick.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:56 AM   #2
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agreed. Every position on the oline now is critical. We are in a passing league, and if you dont think that the oline is important. Then why did 8 offensive linemen go in the first round this year. Because its becoming painfully obvious about the has, and has nots on the oline.

Not commenting to you persay because you point was zeroed in, and accurate.

There is nothing wrong with having a dominant oline, and just because its not the sexy pick, or the norm, doesnt mean it was the wrong pick.
What good is an All-World line if you don't have a playmaker at quarterback behind them?

Good o-lines really don't make average QB's better. QB's are defined by their play, good or bad.
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:44 PM   #3
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There is nothing wrong with having a dominant oline
There is when you have mediocre talent at the skill positions, especially QB. Hell, if the recent Super Bowl teams are any indication, you really don't need a dominant LT if you have an elite or near-elite quarterback.

Bryant McKinnie, Matt Light, Chad Clifton, Trai Essex, Jermaine Bushrod, etc... basically a collection of worn-down vets on their last legs, backups pushed into the starting role, and prospects who hadn't panned out yet. Yet they didn't stop their teams from at least getting to, and possibly winning, the Super Bowl, because those teams had legit quarterbacks and were stacked with talent at the skill positions.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:26 PM   #4
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Why do people say you just don't draft a RT at 1.1 ? Money
No, money has nothing to do with it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:30 PM   #5
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Why do people say you just don't draft a RT at 1.1 ? Money



I say RT is just as important as LT. And we are now set !
You don't draft a punter there either. For the same reason.

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Old 05-02-2013, 10:41 AM   #6
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Why do people say you just don't draft a RT at 1.1 ? Money
Incorrect.
The pick itself is a commodity.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:16 AM   #7
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ill take a player that's "basically Tamba Hali" over a RT at 1.1 overall any day 100 times out of 100
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:21 AM   #8
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ill take a player that's "basically Tamba Hali" over a RT at 1.1 overall any day 100 times out of 100
Fair enough. Except, that he isnt basically Tamba Hali. He is a situational pass rusher, who didnt really stand out and only played 42 percent of his teams defensive plays. Tamba Hali coming out of college was an every down player, and was a beast. Hes much closer to being vernon gholston than Tamba Hali.......
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:47 PM   #9
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I honestly can't tell you who I would have preferred us to draft at #1. Every single position, every player at the top of his position, had big time question marks. It's easy to just complain that we took a redundant tackle. What's not easy is definitively pointing to ONE player and saying "This guy! This guy right here was worth first overall."

Not the field... just one player. Milliner? Jordan? Lotuleilei? Werner? Who?

Face it, we got ****ing hosed. We're Chiefs fans... OF COURSE there were no good first overall draft picks.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:57 PM   #10
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I honestly can't tell you who I would have preferred us to draft at #1. Every single position, every player at the top of his position, had big time question marks. It's easy to just complain that we took a redundant tackle. What's not easy is definitively pointing to ONE player and saying "This guy! This guy right here was worth first overall."

Not the field... just one player. Milliner? Jordan? Lotuleilei? Werner? Who?

Face it, we got ****ing hosed. We're Chiefs fans... OF COURSE there were no good first overall draft picks.
there wasn't anyone worth being a top 5 pick this year



of course in a few years some player will turn out to be a stud, but on paper we were screwed.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #11
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I agree with the people who say right tackle is almost as important, mainly because our best player is a running back. If we get a franchise QB then LT becomes a lot more important. But given the Chiefs I'm not holding my breath on that.

I am pretty excited to see what Charles does this year if our oline stays intact.
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What good is an All-World line if you don't have a playmaker at quarterback behind them?

Good o-lines really don't make average QB's better. QB's are defined by their play, good or bad.
Trent Green disagrees.
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It seems to me that "below average" for a QB is synonymous with "absolutely terrible."

"Above average" is synonymous with "franchise QB."

Average is basically one or two guys that could break out but haven't. A la Matt Ryan or Sam Bradford.
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