Texas A&M LT Joeckel is coming out for draft

[tyton75]

I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by tyton75

I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?

wouldn't it make sense to kill yourself?

sure would save us the time...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by tyton75

I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?

You weren't blasted for having a differing opinion. You were blasted for having a WRONG opinion.

It's always the same - Geno isn't Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert. But Luke Joeckel is the next Willie Roaf, Manti Te'o is the next Ray Lewis, and Jarvis Jones is the next Derrick Thomas.

It's ridiculous hyperbole and a blatant double standard.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by tyton75

I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?

You're blasted for offering nothing to substantiate things like:

"Joekel is the best OT prospect in 10 years" and "He's the next Willie Roaf".

Offer some substance and I'll respond in kind. All you've done is offer your spin on a tired debate without any facts to back it. As maqe has noted - many of us are tired of the double standard being applied to prospects at 'lesser' positions. If you draft Joekel, he's a surefire HOFer whereas if you draft a QB, he's the next Ryan Leaf.

It's just dumb and ultimately it's nothing more than a by-product of A) People in KC have had this anti-QB bias beaten into them and B) The unrealistic and wholly inaccurate assumption that you only take a QB at #1 overall when Andrew Luck is sitting there.

That's why you got blasted. Not because of your opinion, but because your opinion is the same re-packaged, ill-informed, wrong-headed tripe that we've heard for years.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You're blasted for offering nothing to substantiate things like:

"Joekel is the best OT prospect in 10 years" and "He's the next Willie Roaf".

Offer some substance and I'll respond in kind. All you've done is offer your spin on a tired debate without any facts to back it. As maqe has noted - many of us are tired of the double standard being applied to prospects at 'lesser' positions. If you draft Joekel, he's a surefire HOFer whereas if you draft a QB, he's the next Ryan Leaf.

It's just dumb and ultimately it's nothing more than a by-product of A) People in KC have had this anti-QB bias beaten into them and B) The unrealistic and wholly inaccurate assumption that you only take a QB at #1 overall when Andrew Luck is sitting there.

That's why you got blasted. Not because of your opinion, but because your opinion is the same re-packaged, ill-informed, wrong-headed tripe that we've heard for years.

Here's a spin: You take the person at one that you feel will contribute more to your organization over a longer time span. I'm not convinced Geno is it. However, I, nor anybody outside of the Chiefs organization, make that call.

Ironically, I think if the Chiefs would have won a couple of more games and had a lower draft spot in the first the same things would have happened and we probably would draft a quarterback.

This place is going to epic meltdown status on draft day because I don't think Geno is in the cards.

[tyton75]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You're blasted for offering nothing to substantiate things like:

"Joekel is the best OT prospect in 10 years" and "He's the next Willie Roaf".

Offer some substance and I'll respond in kind. All you've done is offer your spin on a tired debate without any facts to back it. As maqe has noted - many of us are tired of the double standard being applied to prospects at 'lesser' positions. If you draft Joekel, he's a surefire HOFer whereas if you draft a QB, he's the next Ryan Leaf.

It's just dumb and ultimately it's nothing more than a by-product of A) People in KC have had this anti-QB bias beaten into them and B) The unrealistic and wholly inaccurate assumption that you only take a QB at #1 overall when Andrew Luck is sitting there.

That's why you got blasted. Not because of your opinion, but because your opinion is the same re-packaged, ill-informed, wrong-headed tripe that we've heard for years.

I can totally understand where you are coming from. You are right, I have nothing but what I heard on the radio stating that some think he's the best OT prospect in 10 years.

But you have to agree that this is a very DOWN QB year.
-Everyone is charging ahead for Geno solely based on his big numbers early in the season.
Barkley was so/so and got hurt.

Assuming those are the 2 best options for the 1st pick at QB. They just both appear to be "Christian Ponder" to me. Game managers at best.

Just NOT the type of players you take with the overall no. 1 pick if there is a stunning player at a different position. Like a Jarvis Jones type guy who can really be a game changer.

We are not going to be able to turn this all around in 1 season, I'm sorry. We need talent.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by tyton75

But you have to agree that this is a very DOWN QB year.

Bunch of ****ing horseshit.

[tyton75]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bunch of ****ing horseshit.

lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.


Lets forget about the fact that we could potentially lose Brandon Albert and Dwayne Bowe, giving us 2 major holes to fill. Not to mention that we have NOTHING on the other side of Brandon Flowers.

MEDIOCRE college QB or BUST!!!

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by tyton75

lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.


Lets forget about the fact that we could potentially lose Brandon Albert and Dwayne Bowe, giving us 2 major holes to fill. Not to mention that we have NOTHING on the other side of Brandon Flowers.

MEDIOCRE college QB or BUST!!!

You really should just shoot yourself and save everybody the trouble because you are ****ing stupid.

[tyton75]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

You really should just shoot yourself and save everybody the trouble because you are ****ing stupid.

If I'm so stupid, could you tell me why Geno is so great? I know I hadn't even heard of him before this year.

All I really know about him is that he is 6'3" around 210lbs and throws kinda funny.

My greatest hope is that he is a McNabb clone if we do draft him, but I'm just not seeing that he is that good against good competition.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by tyton75

lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.


Lets forget about the fact that we could potentially lose Brandon Albert and Dwayne Bowe, giving us 2 major holes to fill. Not to mention that we have NOTHING on the other side of Brandon Flowers.

MEDIOCRE college QB or BUST!!!

Oh shiiiiiiit, now you've done it

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by tyton75

lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.


Lets forget about the fact that we could potentially lose Brandon Albert and Dwayne Bowe, giving us 2 major holes to fill. Not to mention that we have NOTHING on the other side of Brandon Flowers.

MEDIOCRE college QB or BUST!!!

Tebow won a Heisman.

What's your point?

And IF we lose Albert.....well.....we just used a 3rd Round Pick on his replacement. What would you rather have, a 3rd round LT or a 3rd round QB? Pretty simple answer for me.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by tyton75

lol.. Really? If its such horseshit, how does Colin Klein make it as a Heisman finalist and your God Geno doesn't?

This QB class is SO good that a Freshman QB won just about every major QB award.

Ah...now I see the caliber of opponent I'm dealing with here.

I feel that I wasted a shitload of time with my last post. Afterall, everyone knows that college performance is clearly how one determines future success at the NFL level. Afterall, Chris Weinke, Tim Tebow, Jason White, all of those badass college QBs that ran around a lot and won Heisman's were clearly studs. Tebow winning in 2007 clearly meant that the Falcons had no business drafting Matt Ryan. The Packers clearly should've gone with Leinart over Rodgers.

Get this shit out of here. Now you're going to get blasted for being an idiot because you've proven yourself to be an idiot with 'logic' such as this.

[tyton75]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ah...now I see the caliber of opponent I'm dealing with here.

I feel that I wasted a shitload of time with my last post. Afterall, everyone knows that college performance is clearly how one determines future success at the NFL level. Afterall, Chris Weinke, Tim Tebow, Jason White, all of those badass college QBs that ran around a lot and won Heisman's were clearly studs. Tebow winning in 2007 clearly meant that the Falcons had no business drafting Matt Ryan. The Packers clearly should've gone with Leinart over Rodgers.

Get this shit out of here. Now you're going to get blasted for being an idiot because you've proven yourself to be an idiot with 'logic' such as this.

Oh, I know the record of Heismans not projecting to the NFL. My point was that its basically turning into the best QB in the country award, and the top guys for the draft weren't in the conversation.

When McNabb was selected by Philly, he was a finalist. Just making some comparisons that worry me.

[Mi_chief_fan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ah...now I see the caliber of opponent I'm dealing with here.

I feel that I wasted a shitload of time with my last post. Afterall, everyone knows that college performance is clearly how one determines future success at the NFL level. Afterall, Chris Weinke, Tim Tebow, Jason White, all of those badass college QBs that ran around a lot and won Heisman's were clearly studs. Tebow winning in 2007 clearly meant that the Falcons had no business drafting Matt Ryan. The Packers clearly should've gone with Leinart over Rodgers.

Get this shit out of here. Now you're going to get blasted for being an idiot because you've proven yourself to be an idiot with 'logic' such as this.

Danny Wuerffel. Don't forget Danny Wuerffel. And Eric Crouch.