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Old 08-23-2015, 09:19 PM  
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Would you straight up trade Alex Smith for Carr, if you could..
I can't do a poll on this crap phone so chime in...


Who would you rather have, Right NOW,


Smith or Carr?
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:27 PM   #451
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Still care to argue that the Raiders aren't VASTLY improved?

Still don't think Carr is a ****ing stud?
I'm not really sure he's a ****ing stud be honest. He's got a great surrounding cast and looks to be coming on strong but man, he's got a lot to do before I'd wanna drop 25 mil per there
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:35 PM   #452
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This thread is/was a smorgasbord of hilariously bad opinions.
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Old 06-21-2017, 02:42 PM   #453
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Alex Smith and 2 1st probably dont get that deal done now.
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Old 06-21-2017, 03:46 PM   #454
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:30 PM   #455
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I'm not really sure he's a ****ing stud be honest. He's got a great surrounding cast and looks to be coming on strong but man, he's got a lot to do before I'd wanna drop 25 mil per there
I don't necessarily disagree...the money he is about to get is obnoxious...but 1st winning season in over a decade and clearly franchise qbotf...
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Old 06-21-2017, 09:42 PM   #456
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Still care to argue that the Raiders aren't VASTLY improved?

Still don't think Carr is a ****ing stud?
First off, you quoted me from 2015 and no, the Raiders weren't "vastly improved" from 2014.

2014: 3-13
2015: 7-9

They made a huge leap in 2016 but now the challenge comes: They don't play a last place schedule and they'll be paying Carr at the top of the league with Mack soon to follow.

This is what I said in August 2015:

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I'd take Carr and Bridgewater.

I don't know how those QB's will ultimately fare but it appears to me that the 2011-2013 Alex Smith were outlier years.

I've wanted him to succeed and hope he proves me wrong but he just seems to play scared, like a dog that's been kicked one too many times. He's never aggressive, regardless of the circumstances and while I'm sure he's a nice guy and great in the lockerroom, blah, blah, blah, whatever confidence he had in his game appears to be long gone.

Hopefully, he proves me wrong but after last year and his brief time in preseason, he looks more like pre-2011 than 2012.
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Old 06-21-2017, 10:24 PM   #457
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You were wrong about Carr and the Raiders....no matter how you want to dance around it...I'm not gonna sit here and argue about YOUR definition of vastly improved...which was obviously wrong
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Hilarious.

Here's what I know:

Carr will never amount to Alex Smith. Ever. He'll never get there.

Now, what has Alex Smith amounted to? Not much. He's basically a "tweener." He's too good to be a backup in a 32 team league but he's not good enough to be a franchise QB, or maybe even a "good" QB.

But Carr? Dude isn't even on Mark Sanchez's level. He's not good. I have a strong feeling not a whole lot of people watched Derek Carr on this board last year because he doesn't have "it", he wasn't good, and he'll never be even league average in terms of being an NFL QB.
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You were wrong about Carr and the Raiders....no matter how you want to dance around it...I'm not gonna sit here and argue about YOUR definition of vastly improved...which was obviously wrong
Go tell to it to the 40 remaining Oakland Raiders fans, Butt****.

I'll say it one more time, so that your tiny penis and brain can understand:

2-14 to 11-5 is a VAST IMPROVEMENT.

3-13 to 7-9 is NOT a "vast improvement".
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Old 06-21-2017, 11:09 PM   #460
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Lollll lollll

Rofl

Whatever makes you feel better

You are free to pretend the Raiders werent vastly improved JUST by drafting Carr

I guess they made him the highest paid player in history for nothing
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Lollll lollll

Rofl

Whatever makes you feel better

You are free to pretend the Raiders werent vastly improved JUST by drafting Carr

I guess they made him the highest paid player in history for nothing
Well, they ARE the Raiders
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