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Old 01-28-2013, 11:32 AM   #1
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Physical gifts-wise, he's Matt Cassel.

His instincts and decision making are much better, but not enough to excite me in any way whatsoever... because his arm is just too much of a noodle.

I want "DYNAMIC" to be one of the first words that come to mind when discussing our next QB.
Give me smart and accurate.

Frankly, I don't think it's terribly likely that you'll ever hear Geno Smith being called a 'dynamic' quarterback. He makes his bones through touch/accuracy and being prudent with the football. He's a perfect Reid QB in that he combines that with an above average arm and mobility when needed, but he's not Stafford or even Josh Freeman back there.

I don't see ASmith as being the noodle-arm some are claiming here. His arm strength is really pretty similar to Sam Bradford's. If you're going to use a Bell Curve for starting NFL quarterbacks, he's probably gets a C-. He doesn't have a cannon, but he's also not Ponder (in fact, I think his arm is probably better than Daltons, but Dalton gets to throw to AJ Green).
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:40 AM   #2
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Give me smart and accurate.

Frankly, I don't think it's terribly likely that you'll ever hear Geno Smith being called a 'dynamic' quarterback. He makes his bones through touch/accuracy and being prudent with the football. He's a perfect Reid QB in that he combines that with an above average arm and mobility when needed, but he's not Stafford or even Josh Freeman back there.

I don't see ASmith as being the noodle-arm some are claiming here. His arm strength is really pretty similar to Sam Bradford's. If you're going to use a Bell Curve for starting NFL quarterbacks, he's probably gets a C-. He doesn't have a cannon, but he's also not Ponder (in fact, I think his arm is probably better than Daltons, but Dalton gets to throw to AJ Green).
Yeah, he's definitely a qualified pro, no question about it... there simply isnt any excitement factor about him in most eyes.

The single most damning statement i've read on him, maybe ever, is yours...

"Alex Smith could make us the Houston Texans, for sure"

I dont want to top out at that, thats not the goal.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:51 AM   #3
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Yeah, he's definitely a qualified pro, no question about it... there simply isnt any excitement factor about him in most eyes.

The single most damning statement i've read on him, maybe ever, is yours...

"Alex Smith could make us the Houston Texans, for sure"

I dont want to top out at that, thats not the goal.
And in the NFL, your window is always closing faster than you think.

If Scott Pioli would've brought Alex Smith or Matt Schaub in 4 years ago, I think it would've been a very smart move. He could've worked on getting the team moving in the right direction with a competent, qualified signal caller. The offense could've built some cohesion and the core of young players we have could've matured into their primes....sometime around 2012. In the interim, he could've looked at Russell Wilson or even Kaepernick to take over when the team outruns the talent of Smith/Schaub.

Now, however, we have way too many of our best players right smack in the middle of their primes. This is a pretty awful time to be setting your ceiling at the Texans.

They need to take a HR swing here or risk losing out on the primes of some of the (no shit) best players to ever play their positions for this franchise.

I'd have loved to be able to step up to greatness because that's usually what it takes for young teams. My favorite line is one I stole from a hockey analogy - they have knock on the door before they can kick it in. That said, Pioli cost us that luxury by shitting himself for 4 years. We have to skip the stop-gap and go the high-risk, high-reward route.
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:58 AM   #4
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And in the NFL, your window is always closing faster than you think.

If Scott ***** would've brought Alex Smith or Matt Schaub in 4 years ago, I think it would've been a very smart move. He could've worked on getting the team moving in the right direction with a competent, qualified signal caller. The offense could've built some cohesion and the core of young players we have could've matured into their primes....sometime around 2012. In the interim, he could've looked at Russell Wilson or even Kaepernick to take over when the team outruns the talent of Smith/Schaub.

Now, however, we have way too many of our best players right smack in the middle of their primes. This is a pretty awful time to be setting your ceiling at the Texans.

They need to take a HR swing here or risk losing out on the primes of some of the (no shit) best players to ever play their positions for this franchise.

I'd have loved to be able to step up to greatness because that's usually what it takes for young teams. My favorite line is one I stole from a hockey analogy - they have knock on the door before they can kick it in. That said, ***** cost us that luxury by shitting himself for 4 years. We have to skip the stop-gap and go the high-risk, high-reward route.
Yep, everything here is dead on.

Its time for a dinger swing.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:00 PM   #5
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Yep, everything here is dead on.

Its time for a dinger swing.
Yeah, no more bunting.
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Give me smart and accurate.

Frankly, I don't think it's terribly likely that you'll ever hear Geno Smith being called a 'dynamic' quarterback. He makes his bones through touch/accuracy and being prudent with the football. He's a perfect Reid QB in that he combines that with an above average arm and mobility when needed, but he's not Stafford or even Josh Freeman back there.

I don't see ASmith as being the noodle-arm some are claiming here. His arm strength is really pretty similar to Sam Bradford's. If you're going to use a Bell Curve for starting NFL quarterbacks, he's probably gets a C-. He doesn't have a cannon, but he's also not Ponder (in fact, I think his arm is probably better than Daltons, but Dalton gets to throw to AJ Green).
If a person advocating for Smith admits he is a C- (which I think is fair), you can see why none of us are excited. If the football gods could promise that he would never play a down for the Chiefs unless our #1 QB was injured, I'd be okay with Smith. If, however, there is even a 5% chance that he has a good preseason and they decide to not start Geno in favor of him, then I don't want him. All of us fear that the retread below average QB will become acceptable in a league were having a top QB is an absolute prerequisite to post-season success.
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If a person advocating for Smith admits he is a C- (which I think is fair), you can see why none of us are excited. If the football gods could promise that he would never play a down for the Chiefs unless our #1 QB was injured, I'd be okay with Smith. If, however, there is even a 5% chance that he has a good preseason and they decide to not start Geno in favor of him, then I don't want him. All of us fear that the retread below average QB will become acceptable in a league were having a top QB is an absolute prerequisite to post-season success.
C- arm.

I think he's probably a C+/B- quarterback.
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