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Chief Roundup · 03-27-2018, 05:43 PM

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Will Chiefs switch to 4-3 defense? Andy Reid gives his answer

By Terez A. Paylor

tpaylor@kcstar.com

Despite posting the league's 28th-ranked defense in 2017, don't expect the Chiefs to switch defensive schemes anytime soon.

Although Chiefs coach Andy Reid used a 4-3 scheme during his largely successful 14-year tenure as the Philadelphia Eagles' coach, Reid made it clear during the coaches breakfast at the NFL's annual meeting on Tuesday that he still believes in the 3-4 scheme they've used since his arrival in Kansas City in 2013.

"There’s so much flexibility in the 3-4," Reid said.

Reid added that the Chiefs aren't a "true" 3-4 team, because defensive coordinator Bob Sutton's scheme already calls for more of the gap-shooting that is used in the 4-3 defense. But Reid does like the way the two stand-up edge rushers over the tackles in a 3-4 cause problems for offensive linemen, who don't know whether those defenders will rush or drop into coverage.
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"Having that thought that you have that guy over you that could drop and someone else comes, that’s tough on an offensive guy," Reid said.

Reid also noted that because of the way teams are passing out of three- and four-wide sets, the Chiefs used nickel or dime personnel — which often calls for four down linemen, just like a 4-3 scheme — 73 percent of the time, so they spend the overwhelming amount of time using 4-3 principles.

Moreover, a switch to a 4-3 scheme would likely require a new defensive coordinator, as Bob Sutton is well-versed in the 3-4. And despite the Chiefs' defensive struggles at times last year, Reid still believes in Sutton's ability to put together a top-ranked unit.

"Listen, I think we're OK there," Reid said. "I always look at the big picture of things with Bob and our coaches, and I know what he's done here the last five years. (People are) basing (the reaction) off one game, or two games, and I'm basing it off of five years. So I'm comfortable with him in that spot."

That said, Reid still expects defensive improvement in 2018.

"Do we all need to take our games up a notch?" Reid asked. "Absolutely."

**Easy 6** · 03-28-2018, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Would require a new DC? I'm not for getting rid of Sutton we were thin at spots, talentless at others, and pretty old in others, but didn't he work in a 4-3 before he came here?

Nope, he was in a 3-4 with the Jets

-King- · 03-28-2018, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

We have an elite pass rusher.

Send him every ****ing time!

Houston isn't elite. He's a decent to good pass rusher these days. Nothing more.
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Dunerdr · 03-28-2018, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Nope, he was in a 3-4 with the Jets

I thought Rex played both to disguise the blitz with the primary being the 4-3, but now that I'm awake I vaguely remember fluff pieces about Suttons brilliant 3-4 mind coming to kc way back when.

InChiefsHeaven · 03-28-2018, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Houston isn't elite. He's a decent to good pass rusher these days. Nothing more.
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Indeed. Seriously, he's done a big bag of nothing since he got paid. Between injuries and performance, I really don't see him as a huge difference maker. Yes, I'd rather have him on the field, but I just don't think of him as elite. He's living off of 2014...3 fuggin seasons ago...

https://www.google.com/search?q=just...hrome&ie=UTF-8

O.city · 03-28-2018, 08:29 AM

Houston is a 10 sack per year plus guy. That's not easy to come by.

Toad · 03-28-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He better be right. Interesting that Reid is so resistant to a 4-3 when the defense that made him famous is as popular as ever. Andy Reid got put on the map by an aggressive attacking defense, and got taken off the map by a soft zone version of Jim Johnson's defense. Sure hope he's not falling into that trap all over again.

If he's wrong on this in a year where we have a shot at rebuilding, we've set this defense back a few years.

Agree that he better be right in his loyalty to Sutton. After 2 off seasons of the new younger/faster player aquuisition strategy, he better show dramatic improvement in points AND yards allowed.

Toad · 03-28-2018, 08:58 AM

BTW, on a related note, I came across this article around the late great Jim Johnson. Good read...

http://m.philadelphiaeagles.com/news...9-0cb5fc2deb36

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