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Old 01-08-2013, 09:00 PM   #1
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Nobody would do that, but I would consider a second round pick.
No ****ing way the Chiefs give up #34 overall for Kirk Cousins
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:15 PM   #2
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No ****ing way the Chiefs give up #34 overall for Kirk Cousins
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:02 PM   #3
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Nobody would do that, but I would consider a second round pick.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:01 PM   #4
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I love how the thought isn't even considered and I'm just blasted for coming up with a differing opinion.

While Geno was awesome against walk-over opponents, he was no better than average most of the year. Assuming he is the one that everyone here is SO desperate to draft no.1 OVERALL.

Wouldn't you think it might make a little sense to look around and see if we can find someone who was actually a stand out in their position in college?
History has shown that when a #1 pick is used on anything other than a qb it usually doesn't work out. Long over Ryan is the most recent example.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:04 PM   #5
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History has shown that when a #1 pick is used on anything other than a qb it usually doesn't work out. Long over Ryan is the most recent example.
Forget Long over Ryan. Let's just look at Long.

Pretty solid for his first 4 seasons and then started tailing off. Has had a couple of nagging injuries and now the Dolphins are hinting at needing to replace him.

Even without Matt Rayn in the discussion, that pick was a DISASTER.

And Long was a superior prospect to Joeckel.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:03 PM   #6
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:06 PM   #8
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Look at the remaining teams in the playoffs. The majority of the teams are built around a QB not a LT.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:37 PM   #9
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Look at the remaining teams in the playoffs. The majority of the teams are built around a QB not a LT.
Who in the playoffs is built around an OT not a QB?

Ravens? No
Broncos? No
Patriots? No
Texans? No
Seahawks? No
Falcons? No
Packers? No
SF? No

Now, what is the ONLY thing holding back some of these teams from being Super Bowl favorites?

Ding Ding Ding! Quarterback play. Take the goddamn QB (Not ranting at you specifically Turkey)
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:19 PM   #10
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Who in the playoffs is built around an OT not a QB?

Ravens? No
Broncos? No
Patriots? No
Texans? No
Seahawks? No
Falcons? No
Packers? No
SF? No

Now, what is the ONLY thing holding back some of these teams from being Super Bowl favorites?

Ding Ding Ding! Quarterback play. Take the goddamn QB (Not ranting at you specifically Turkey)
Sorry, this is a lame argument. Every one of those teams have a first round left tackle, with Denver and Seattle spending the #5 and #6 overall. They also had the LT in place before they found their QB.

Atlanta moved into the first round for Sam Baker the same year they took Ryan, the Ravens drafted Oher one year after Flacco (with mixed results) and the Packers and Patriots have spent first rounders in the past two years on LT's.

The reality is that BOTH positions are extremely important. Fortunately, the Chiefs have Albert and don't need both an LT and QB.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:09 PM   #11
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Forget Long over Ryan. Let's just look at Long.

Pretty solid for his first 4 seasons and then started tailing off. Has had a couple of nagging injuries and now the Dolphins are hinting at needing to replace him.

Even without Matt Rayn in the discussion, that pick was a DISASTER.

And Long was a superior prospect to Joeckel.
True. In the end waiting on the QB ended up netting them a lesser QB and a broken LT who probably isn't even going to be re-signed
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:11 PM   #12
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The venom in here is awesome.

fwiw.. Jarvis Jones does remind me a bit of Derrick Thomas.


and like I said to begin with, I agree that we need a QB very badly. I'm just glad we have someone in charge that can recognize QB talent and won't be afraid to look elsewhere with the first pick if he doesn't deem the talent level at the position worth of the no. 1 pick overall.
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The venom in here is awesome.

fwiw.. Jarvis Jones does remind me a bit of Derrick Thomas.


and like I said to begin with, I agree that we need a QB very badly. I'm just glad we have someone in charge that can recognize QB talent and won't be afraid to look elsewhere with the first pick if he doesn't deem the talent level at the position worth of the no. 1 pick overall.
Thankfully fans like you are why the Chiefs do not feel compelled to win a superbowl...
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The venom in here is awesome.

fwiw.. Jarvis Jones does remind me a bit of Derrick Thomas.
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Not to mention that the year before the Long pick MIA chose Ronnie Brown at #2 and passed on Aaron Rodgers. IMO there is more risk in not taking a shot with a QB than trying to play it safe
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