Star Wars Story: Han Solo Movie 2018 Spoiler Thread

[DaneMcCloud]

http://www.starwars.com/news/donald-...and-alone-film

Donald Glover is officially a young Lando Calrissian!

Lucasfilm announced today that Donald Glover, an acclaimed actor, award-winning writer, and Grammy-nominated artist, will be playing the part of Lando Calrissian in the still-untitled Han Solo Star Wars film, helmed by directors Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. Glover will join Alden Ehrenreich — previously cast as Han Solo — in bringing two iconic Star Wars characters back to the big screen, but at a time in their lives previously unexplored. This new film depicts Lando in his formative years as a scoundrel on the rise in the galaxy’s underworld — years before the events involving Han, Leia, and Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back and his rise to Rebel hero in Return of the Jedi.

“We’re so lucky to have an artist as talented as Donald join us,” said Lord and Miller. “These are big shoes to fill, and an even bigger cape, and this one fits him perfectly, which will save us money on alterations. Also, we’d like to publicly apologize to Donald for ruining Comic-Con for him forever.”

Glover is best known for creating and starring in the critically acclaimed FX series Atlanta (which had the highest premiere numbers for any basic cable comedy show since 2013), as well as for starring in four seasons of the show Community, and for his Grammy-nominated album Because the Internet, performed under the name Childish Gambino. In addition, Glover appeared in the Academy Award-nominated The Martian, and will be seen in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming.

The untitled Han Solo movie is set for release in 2018.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You don't like the story line in the new trilogy? Why not?

1. Han and Leia are divorced after having a child that emulates Darth Vader.
2. Luke Skywalker is all alone and blames himself after said child kills all of his new Jedi.
3. Said child kills Han Solo
4. Said child kills the "New" Emperor and takes his place
5. Luke Skywalker essentially commits suicide protecting 20 people left from the New Republic and Rebellion/Resistance, including his sister (who dies shortly thereafter).


What's not to like?

sounds pretty damned interesting. Better than the "they lived happily ever after" ending and the sequels are hours and hours of watching Han and Chewy play corn-hole while Leia fetches beer from the cooler.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What The Last Jedi tells us is that our heroes lives are inconsequential.

Other than restoring peace to the galaxy for years, you mean?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Luke blowing up the Death Star with Han's help was inconsequential.

Inconsequential? Except that the empire didn't have a death star to go around terrorizing planets for a few years and had to start completely over. You could have said this in response to Return of the Jedi too. Stamping out one threat doesn't mean that all threats go away.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Luke saving his father, which lead to the destruction of the second Death Star and death of the Emperor and Sith was inconsequential.

Same response as above... the empire lost another powerful weapon, and their leadership, which lead to peace in the galaxy for years thereafter. How is that inconsequential? Evil always rises up - even in the real world. This is not an unusual concept. You depose one evil dictator and another one steps up to fill in the void.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No matter how much "Good" someone does with their life, evil will always prevail and destroy lives.

Evil doesn't always prevail - in real life nor in Star Wars (see destruction of death star 1, destruction of death star 2, destruction of star killer base, destruction of dreadnought, etc. etc...)

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This also tells us that whatever Finn, Rose, Poe and Rey do in their lives is also inconsequential.

Because they will never be able to completely eradicate evil? Seriously?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, what's the point?

"Darkness rises, and the light to meet it". It's been that way since the dawn of time and will always be that way. No matter how strong and powerful our heroes are on the screen or in real life. And even in knowing that truth... heroes still stand against that evil - it's actually a pretty damned inspiring message.

I think that's the point.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by temper11

Other than restoring peace to the galaxy for years, you mean?

When?

Originally Posted by temper11

Inconsequential? Except that the empire didn't have a death star to go around terrorizing planets for a few years and had to start completely over. You could have said this in response to Return of the Jedi too. Stamping out one threat doesn't mean that all threats go away.

So the remnants of the Empire built an even bigger planet killer.

Originally Posted by temper11

Same response as above... the empire lost another powerful weapon, and their leadership, which lead to peace in the galaxy for years thereafter. How is that inconsequential? Evil always rises up - even in the real world. This is not an unusual concept. You depose one evil dictator and another one steps up to fill in the void.

Dumb

Originally Posted by temper11

Evil doesn't always prevail - in real life nor in Star Wars (see destruction of death star 1, destruction of death star 2, destruction of star killer base, destruction of dreadnought, etc. etc...)

Evil prevails in the Star Wars galaxy

Originally Posted by temper11

Because they will never be able to completely eradicate evil? Seriously?

The First Order just destroyed several planets and all that's left of the Resistance is about 20 people.

What the **** are you watching?

Originally Posted by temper11

I think that's the point.

The "point" is that the heroes of the original Star Wars Trilogy are inconsequential and failures at life.

Failed parents, failed marriages, failed to stop further evil.

Fail, Fail, Epic Fail.

[Hammock Parties]

Thanks to Luke and his friends the galaxy was saved and they had 30 years of peace.

The First Order attempted a return to tyranny once again, and briefly succeeded by winning a few battles, but thanks to our original heroes, some new friends and a last-minute change of heart from Ben Solo, it will be destroyed from within!

What a great story of family legacy and good triumphing over evil! The Republic will be restored!

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What The Last Jedi tells us is that our heroes lives are inconsequential.

Luke blowing up the Death Star with Han's help was inconsequential.

Luke saving his father, which lead to the destruction of the second Death Star and death of the Emperor and Sith was inconsequential.

No matter how much "Good" someone does with their life, evil will always prevail and destroy lives.

This also tells us that whatever Finn, Rose, Poe and Rey do in their lives is also inconsequential.

So, what's the point?

Maybe that's why it was such a big "meh" for me. I don't know. I haven't thought about it a lot because the movie had barely any effect on me. I guess you could say that I'm jaded or disinterested, but I've seen a lot of stuff lately that was downright gripping. I mean, hell, I was more into the Wonder Woman movie than this. Not what I expected.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When?

The period between ROTJ and TFA

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So the remnants of the Empire built an even bigger planet killer.

Yes. That's what you do... when you fail, you try.. try again. Applies to evil empires too.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dumb

Tapout acknowledged

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Evil prevails in the Star Wars galaxy

Evil exists, yes. And sometimes the good guys win and sometimes the bad guys win. Pretty freakin' boring trilogy if Han, Luke and Leia had stamped out all evil in the universe for all time, don't you think?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The First Order just destroyed several planets and all that's left of the Resistance is about 20 people.

Yes, things are dire right now. Sure hope some new heroes step up to continue the good fight and honor the legacy of the heroes that had come before!

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The "point" is that the heroes of the original Star Wars Trilogy are inconsequential and failures at life.

Failed parents, failed marriages, failed to stop further evil.

Fail, Fail, Epic Fail.

yeah... life is hard, marriage is hard, parenting is freakin' hard, stopping all further evil is impossible. The Star Wars universe you want is all rainbows and butterflies.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You don't like the story line in the new trilogy? Why not?

1. Han and Leia are divorced after having a child that emulates Darth Vader.
2. Luke Skywalker is all alone and blames himself after said child kills all of his new Jedi.
3. Said child kills Han Solo
4. Said child kills the "New" Emperor and takes his place
5. Luke Skywalker essentially commits suicide protecting 20 people left from the New Republic and Rebellion/Resistance, including his sister (who dies shortly thereafter).


What's not to like?

The presentation of it along the way wasn't amazing, more so the second one in my opinion. The new characters brought up along the way don't have a ton of depth. I'm pretty neutral about the second movie overall, and went in with an open mind to both, but I just haven't been too engaged by these new characters.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Thanks to Luke and his friends the galaxy was saved and they had 30 years of peace.

The First Order attempted a return to tyranny once again, and briefly succeeded by winning a few battles, but thanks to our original heroes, some new friends and a last-minute change of heart from Ben Solo, it will be destroyed from within!

What a great story of family legacy and good triumphing over evil! The Republic will be restored!

It would have been cool if... (spoilers)

Spoiler!

...Rian Johnson had gone back and changed the movie so that Leia died instead of Luke. Maybe Luke is sitting on his rock and about to fade out but drag out the process. Meanwhile Leia is herding stragglers out of that tunnel complex as giant boulders are still being held up by Rey. Kylo reaches out with the force and connects mentally with Rey, managing to stun her and the boulders fall, killing Leia. All three of them feel Leia dying instantly. Kylo is horrified and orders his fleet to retreat. Rey is visibly crushed (lol) as the survivors make their way to safety. Luke becomes completely corporeal and appears to be filled with rage back in his hovel. It would have been quite the emotional kick after seeing her survive the Mary Poppins maneuver.

I don't know. It just wasn't an engaging movie. I feel like they could have done better.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by temper11

yeah... life is hard, marriage is hard, parenting is freakin' hard, stopping all further evil is impossible. The Star Wars universe you want is all rainbows and butterflies.

Of course, I'm arguing with an Alexsexual, which is my bad...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I don't know. It just wasn't an engaging movie. I feel like they could have done better.

When Episode IX ends, does anyone truly believe that people will be clamoring to see Rey, Poe, Finn, Rose and Kylo Ren after a 32 year absence on the big screen?

I don't think so.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Of course, I'm arguing with an Alexsexual, which is my bad...

I win.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When Episode IX ends, does anyone truly believe that people will be clamoring to see Rey, Poe, Finn, Rose and Kylo Ren after a 32 year absence on the big screen?

I don't think so.

They didn't have the opportunity to fully develop the new characters, because they crammed the OT in there as well.

Finn and Rose really shouldn't be in the films. If Poe Dameron had started out as a TIE pilot or something he could have been a really interesting character. I actually like his arc in TLJ quite a bit.

Finn and Poe should have been one character.

Too many characters competing for screen time.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When Episode IX ends, does anyone truly believe that people will be clamoring to see Rey, Poe, Finn, Rose and Kylo Ren after a 32 year absence on the big screen?

I don't think so.

Again, I think these movies are being held up to unrealistic expectations. When the OT came out, there was nothing, and had been nothing like it in the history of cinema. You are never going to capture that again.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by temper11

Again, I think these movies are being held up to unrealistic expectations. When the OT came out, there was nothing, and had been nothing like it in the history of cinema. You are never going to capture that again.

Solid take.

Disney had to scale Mt. Everest if they wanted to use the original characters AND introduce new ones and do them credit.

It's not perfect, but we got a far more creative effort than what was put out with Star Trek. Talk about a rehash...

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

When Episode IX ends, does anyone truly believe that people will be clamoring to see Rey, Poe, Finn, Rose and Kylo Ren after a 32 year absence on the big screen?

I don't think so.

I agree.