2014-2015 NBA regular season thread.

[Al Bundy]

I will update this when the schedule is announced in a couple of weeks, but I will open with the new uniforms for the Charlotte Hornets below.

Introducing the brand new Charlotte #HornetsUnis! http://t.co/MgHy2DcOTX pic.twitter.com/w59MlUvRgd

— Charlotte Hornets (@hornets) June 19, 2014

[ohiobronco2]

What a great day to be a Cavs fan. LeBron coming back is great, but having that Miami 1st round pick is icing on the cake. EABOD fake Miami "fans".

[ohiobronco2]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Riley shit his pants and reached
Posted via Mobile Device

Agreed. He was afraid of the whole empire collapsing around him. Miami fans make me laugh, they think Riley is a God. Yeah, it takes a real genius to assemble that Miami team.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

His quickness off the dribble is a strength. With Bron it wasn't utilized as his role was to be a spot up shooter and to provide spacing. He'll be expected to do more and go back to his Toronto skillset as the #1, max guy on the team. We'll have to see if he can.

No. It was. Now he's a face-up guy with half of a face-up game. If he was good at breaking someone down off the dribble now, Miami would have spaced the floor and let him do it with a bench unit while LeBron got a blow, and they would have used it as a secondary offensive option to take bigger players away from the paint and get their foul counts up. Alas, that never happened. He camps from 20 feet out and shoots open jumpers now.

I don't think many people understand the way the NBA works. A number one option on any team is going to score almost 20 points a game just based upon the volume of possessions they use.

Shit, Kevin Martin is a near 20 PPG score for his career and he ****ing blows.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Riley was just given a gut punch and reacted in the worst possible fashion. This was an opportunity to get out from under a really bad contract in Wade and an overpay with Bosh, but he's going to soak up cap space and sacrifice draft position while winning 40 games a year

From my understanding they would have to overpay for someone because they have to meet the salary floor of $56 million. But I agree I wouldn't be giving big long contracts to either of those guys.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Riley said he would never agree to do it. I believe the exact quote was "I'd have to take a bat to the meeting."

Wade's solution this offseason is to lose weight. He's delusional about what and where he is at this point in his career.

I remember when we were discussing Rose earlier this year and him not having his meniscus removed. That is clearly the issue with Wade and you have to think there is no way he is going to get much better.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He played 54 games last year, never had to play back-to-backs, had at least one day off in between every playoff game (and often much longer stretches) and was completely ineffective. He can't consistently create his own shot, can't shoot from outside, his legs don't have lift, and his lateral quickness is gone.

He couldn't do anything when LeBron sat during the playoffs.

Not only is he not a top 20 player, he's not a top 50 player. He will get a big contract, but he's not worth much more than the mid-level exception.

Oh really? The 50th best player in the NBA averages 20 ppg, 5apg, 5rpg, while shooting 54% from the floor....all the while being hobbled? UNREAL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

From my understanding they would have to overpay for someone because they have to meet the salary floor of $56 million. But I agree I wouldn't be giving big long contracts to either of those guys.



I remember when we were discussing Rose earlier this year and him not having his meniscus removed. That is clearly the issue with Wade and you have to think there is no way he is going to get much better.

Yup. That's why people criticizing Rose don't get it.

Wade in his own words regarding his meniscus:

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miam...emoved-college

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Parker and Wiggins both look fantastic.

By all accounts, Wiggins is having an off shooting night. Only 1-7 from three, but 7-16 from the field still, with 18 points in the 3rd qtr.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Oh really? The 50th best player in the NBA averages 20 ppg, 5apg, 5rpg, while shooting 54% from the floor....all the while being hobbled? UNREAL

Do you have any idea what dozens of guys could do in the NBA if they didn't have to play back-to-backs, never had to guard the opposing team's best player, and never were guarded by the other team's best defender?

Wade was given the softest schedule imaginable and still broke down, and although he may be in south Florida, he isn't any closer to the fountain of youth than that Spaniard **** Ponce de Leon.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Do you have any idea what dozens of guys could do in the NBA if they didn't have to play back-to-backs, never had to guard the opposing team's best player, and never were guarded by the other team's best defender?

Wade was given the softest schedule imaginable and still broke down, and although he may be in south Florida, he isn't any closer to the fountain of youth than that Spaniard **** Ponce de Leon.

Please show me your study and experience where you played back-to-back games and it severely hampered your ability to play basketball. BTW, 54 of 82 games is like over 65% of the games. So he had to play back to back games at some point. I'm sure D Wade could have played more games if they wanted him to, but it was a risk reward situation. The heat weren't' in a playoff hunt race, they were already a lock. There really wasn't any point in risking it.

[ChiefsCountry]

Hamas has been a dumb ass regarding Wade and Bosh for 4 years now glad to see he is still keeping it up.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Please show me your study and experience where you played back-to-back games and it severely hampered your ability to play basketball.

The fact that you would even try to argue this proves how much you don't know. It isn't even debated in NBA circles that playing the second of a back-to-back results in a marked decline in performance for teams and players.

There was a guy who made a killing in the lockout season. You know why? He bet the under in every game. His philosophy was that with teams playing more games back to back and more four out of fives that scoring would be depressed. He was right.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Mark Cuban's blog:

Back to Backs in the NBA
Posted on December 21, 2005
I dont think anyone questions the perspective that teams playing on the 2nd game of back to backs are at a
disadvantage. Beyond fatique, the impact of travel, trying to adjust to time zone changes and more add up to make it
difficult for players and teams. Heck, I get tired from them, I cant imagine how tough it is on the guys.

Opinion aside, I decided to do some homework. With the help of Elias Sports and our stats gurus from Indiana
University, we were able to quantify the impact of both back to back games and 4 games in 5 nights.

Rather than providing the statistical mumbo jumbo, which wouldnt make sense without all the background and other
data, suffice it to say, that our analysis provides us with a comparison between any given team and what we feel to be
an average team. The best teams would be expected to win by 5 to 8 points at home against this average team. Less on
the road. THe worst teams would lose to the average team by 7 to 10 points at home.

For this season, through december 15th, the 2nd game of a back to back makes a team 3.5 points worst. In other
words, the best teams are still good, but on the 2nd game of back to back, particularly on the road, they become much
closer to average. Making them beatable.

Its far worse for the 4th game in 5 nights. ON those nights, a team is 8 points worse. Again, more on the road. So
basically, a team should lose to just about any but the worst teams if they are on the road.

Meaning, that the schedule gods can have a HUGE impact on the standings. That the day the Circus or a concert
is scheduled at your arena could block out a night, that would in turn force the schedule to create multiple 4 game in
5 nights situation and possibly cost a playoff seeding !

I dont have the number of either for this season as a whole yet. Im sure someone out there can get it done if so
inclined.

What i did get back from our friends at Elias are the W L records per team for the 2nd game of a back to back over
the last 5 years and through the 15th of dec for thisyear.

ATL 2001-02 Won-Lost: 8-14

ATL 2002-03 Won-Lost: 9-14

ATL 2003-04 Won-Lost: 7-14

ATL 2004-05 Won-Lost: 4-19

ATL 2005-06 Won-Lost: 0- 5

BOS 2001-02 Won-Lost: 7-13

BOS 2002-03 Won-Lost: 9-10

BOS 2003-04 Won-Lost: 8- 9

BOS 2004-05 Won-Lost: 12- 8

BOS 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 5

CHA 2004-05 Won-Lost: 6-17

CHA 2005-06 Won-Lost: 4- 4

CHI 2001-02 Won-Lost: 5-18

CHI 2002-03 Won-Lost: 5-18

CHI 2003-04 Won-Lost: 5-17

CHI 2004-05 Won-Lost: 13- 9

CHI 2005-06 Won-Lost: 4- 2

CLE 2001-02 Won-Lost: 6-17

CLE 2002-03 Won-Lost: 5-19

CLE 2003-04 Won-Lost: 8-12

CLE 2004-05 Won-Lost: 6-14

CLE 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 3

DAL 2001-02 Won-Lost: 13- 6

DAL 2002-03 Won-Lost: 11- 5

DAL 2003-04 Won-Lost: 12- 7

DAL 2004-05 Won-Lost: 12- 6

DAL 2005-06 Won-Lost: 3- 3

DEN 2001-02 Won-Lost: 4-16

DEN 2002-03 Won-Lost: 6-18

DEN 2003-04 Won-Lost: 11-12

DEN 2004-05 Won-Lost: 9-11

DEN 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 4

DET 2001-02 Won-Lost: 13-10

DET 2002-03 Won-Lost: 11-13

DET 2003-04 Won-Lost: 15- 8

DET 2004-05 Won-Lost: 12- 9

DET 2005-06 Won-Lost: 5- 2

GS 2001-02 Won-Lost: 5-18

GS 2002-03 Won-Lost: 10-10

GS 2003-04 Won-Lost: 9-13

GS 2004-05 Won-Lost: 9-11

GS 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 3

HOU 2001-02 Won-Lost: 4-15

HOU 2002-03 Won-Lost: 13- 8

HOU 2003-04 Won-Lost: 12- 7

HOU 2004-05 Won-Lost: 9- 7

HOU 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 4

IND 2001-02 Won-Lost: 10-13

IND 2002-03 Won-Lost: 12-11

IND 2003-04 Won-Lost: 15- 7

IND 2004-05 Won-Lost: 10-13

IND 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 3

LAC 2001-02 Won-Lost: 5-16

LAC 2002-03 Won-Lost: 6-13

LAC 2003-04 Won-Lost: 8-15

LAC 2004-05 Won-Lost: 10-12

LAC 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 3

LAL 2001-02 Won-Lost: 8-11

LAL 2002-03 Won-Lost: 11- 8

LAL 2003-04 Won-Lost: 10- 9

LAL 2004-05 Won-Lost: 5-14

LAL 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 4

MEM 2001-02 Won-Lost: 3-13

MEM 2002-03 Won-Lost: 6-14

MEM 2003-04 Won-Lost: 11-10

MEM 2004-05 Won-Lost: 12-11

MEM 2005-06 Won-Lost: 4- 3

MIA 2001-02 Won-Lost: 13- 9

MIA 2002-03 Won-Lost: 4-16

MIA 2003-04 Won-Lost: 10-13

MIA 2004-05 Won-Lost: 10- 6

MIA 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 4

MIL 2001-02 Won-Lost: 11- 9

MIL 2002-03 Won-Lost: 9-14

MIL 2003-04 Won-Lost: 10-10

MIL 2004-05 Won-Lost: 8-12

MIL 2005-06 Won-Lost: 4- 2

MIN 2001-02 Won-Lost: 10- 9

MIN 2002-03 Won-Lost: 12- 8

MIN 2003-04 Won-Lost: 13- 7

MIN 2004-05 Won-Lost: 9-12

MIN 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 2

NJ 2001-02 Won-Lost: 12- 8

NJ 2002-03 Won-Lost: 10-10

NJ 2003-04 Won-Lost: 7-13

NJ 2004-05 Won-Lost: 9-11

NJ 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 3

CHA 2001-02 Won-Lost: 8-11

NO 2002-03 Won-Lost: 11-11

NO 2003-04 Won-Lost: 11-11

NO 2004-05 Won-Lost: 5-18

NOK 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 4

NY 2001-02 Won-Lost: 7-10

NY 2002-03 Won-Lost: 2-17

NY 2003-04 Won-Lost: 10-10

NY 2004-05 Won-Lost: 5-16

NY 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 2

ORL 2001-02 Won-Lost: 6-15

ORL 2002-03 Won-Lost: 7-12

ORL 2003-04 Won-Lost: 5-15

ORL 2004-05 Won-Lost: 10-11

ORL 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 4

PHI 2001-02 Won-Lost: 9-12

PHI 2002-03 Won-Lost: 12- 8

PHI 2003-04 Won-Lost: 6-13

PHI 2004-05 Won-Lost: 10- 9

PHI 2005-06 Won-Lost: 3- 4

PHO 2001-02 Won-Lost: 6-13

PHO 2002-03 Won-Lost: 6-14

PHO 2003-04 Won-Lost: 6-15

PHO 2004-05 Won-Lost: 17- 5

PHO 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 4

POR 2001-02 Won-Lost: 10-13

POR 2002-03 Won-Lost: 11-12

POR 2003-04 Won-Lost: 9- 8

POR 2004-05 Won-Lost: 7-13

POR 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 3

SAC 2001-02 Won-Lost: 13- 9

SAC 2002-03 Won-Lost: 11- 8

SAC 2003-04 Won-Lost: 7-12

SAC 2004-05 Won-Lost: 7-10

SAC 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 5

SA 2001-02 Won-Lost: 17- 4

SA 2002-03 Won-Lost: 13- 5

SA 2003-04 Won-Lost: 13- 6

SA 2004-05 Won-Lost: 10- 9

SA 2005-06 Won-Lost: 0- 3

SEA 2001-02 Won-Lost: 9-13

SEA 2002-03 Won-Lost: 9-11

SEA 2003-04 Won-Lost: 11-12

SEA 2004-05 Won-Lost: 11- 8

SEA 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 2

TOR 2001-02 Won-Lost: 10- 9

TOR 2002-03 Won-Lost: 1-17

TOR 2003-04 Won-Lost: 4-12

TOR 2004-05 Won-Lost: 5-12

TOR 2005-06 Won-Lost: 1- 5

UTA 2001-02 Won-Lost: 10-11

UTA 2002-03 Won-Lost: 9-10

UTA 2003-04 Won-Lost: 8-12

UTA 2004-05 Won-Lost: 6-15

UTA 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 5

WAS 2001-02 Won-Lost: 7-13

WAS 2002-03 Won-Lost: 12- 9

WAS 2003-04 Won-Lost: 7-14

WAS 2004-05 Won-Lost: 11-12

WAS 2005-06 Won-Lost: 2- 3

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Bosh could have played with Howard and would have opened his game up. Oh well. **** him. Hope they let Parsons walk now

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Riley was just given a gut punch and reacted in the worst possible fashion. This was an opportunity to get out from under a really bad contract in Wade and an overpay with Bosh, but he's going to soak up cap space and sacrifice draft position while winning 40 games a year

Riley's true colors shown through with the Bosh contract.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Oh really? The 50th best player in the NBA averages 20 ppg, 5apg, 5rpg, while shooting 54% from the floor....all the while being hobbled? UNREAL

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Bosh
4. Paul
5. Griffin
6. Rose
7. Joakim Noah
8. Melo
9. Love
10. Lowry
11. George
12. Stephenson
13. Rondo
14. Howard
15. Harden
16. Dirk
17. Curry
18. Thompson
19. Irving
20. Lillard

20 random players. Tell me which ones Wade is better than.