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Old 04-06-2013, 08:42 PM   #1
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9 - 7 could win this pathetic ass division so even with shitty Alex Smith @ QB we could win the division despite the QBs.
The 2011 NY Giants won the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

The 2008 Arizona Cardinals were two minutes away from a Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:46 PM   #2
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All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.
With an elite QB.

Alex Smith isn't taking a 9-7 team anywhere.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:50 PM   #3
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The Broncos are probably a 14-2 team.
We call this move the Garcia Bronco.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:55 PM   #4
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The 2011 NY Giants won the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

The 2008 Arizona Cardinals were two minutes away from a Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.
If we had a draft pick quarterback to lead this team I'd be excited to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. Forgive me that I think Alex Smith and any other retread QB the Chiefs would get ****ing suck for us to win in the playoffs. Could happen but we have only one playoff win with Joe Montana to show for it in the last 30 -40 years.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:59 PM   #5
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If we had a draft pick quarterback to lead this team I'd be excited to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. Forgive me that I think Alex Smith and any other retread QB the Chiefs would get ****ing suck for us to win in the playoffs. Could happen but we have only one playoff win with Joe Montana to show for it in the last 30 -40 years.
I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:12 PM   #6
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I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.
"This season" being the key phrase.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:18 PM   #7
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I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.
The question is, or should be, is there one that can play better in the years to come?
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:30 PM   #8
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I don't think there's a QB in the draft that can play better than Alex Smith this season.
I bet Geno Smith can make the big time plays that Alex Smith would fail at. Game managing Alex Smith would have the edge. Give another couple seasons and Geno Smith will most likely be head and shoulders over Alex Smith.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:52 PM   #9
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I bet Geno Smith can make the big time plays that Alex Smith would fail at. Game managing Alex Smith would have the edge. Give another couple seasons and Geno Smith will most likely be head and shoulders over Alex Smith.
Geno will also make many more game costing mistakes in his first few years, I'll bet. I don't know it's "likely" Geno will be head and shoulders above AS, because QB is never that sure of a bet. I'd say it's 50-50 Geno becomes a top 15 QB.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:11 PM   #10
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If we had a draft pick quarterback to lead this team I'd be excited to get into the playoffs with a 9-7 record. Forgive me that I think Alex Smith and any other retread QB the Chiefs would get ****ing suck for us to win in the playoffs. Could happen but we have only one playoff win with Joe Montana to show for it in the last 30 -40 years.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:22 PM   #11
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The 2011 NY Giants won the Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

The 2008 Arizona Cardinals were two minutes away from a Super Bowl with a 9-7 record.

All that truly matters is getting into the playoffs.
Kurt Warner isn't walking through that door. Eli Manning isn't walking through that door, and Aaron Rodgers isn't walking through that door.

Yeah, you can win a SB as a WC if you have elite QB play.

Welp...
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:29 PM   #12
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Kurt Warner isn't walking through that door. Eli Manning isn't walking through that door, and Aaron Rodgers isn't walking through that door.

Yeah, you can win a SB as a WC if you have elite QB play.

Welp...
While I respect your opinion, I'd prefer to wait until after Reid and Smith's first season in KC before shutting the door on any possibilities.

2013 "feels" like 1989 to me. It doesn't "feel" like 2001 or 2006 or 2009.

I've been fooled in the past, by Levy (he won in the CFL!) and especially with the Mackovic hire (Oh, well he was Tom Landry's "Right Hand Man!").

But I wasn't fooled by Gansz, wasn't fooled by Gunther, wasn't fooled by Vermeil and wasn't fooled by Pioli's bunch.

I could be wrong and maybe I'm being fooled again. But right now, I think they've made some solid moves and I'm hopeful.

Check back next Spring.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:31 PM   #13
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While I respect your opinion, I'd prefer to wait until after Reid and Smith's first season in KC before shutting the door on any possibilities.

2013 "feels" like 1989 to me. It doesn't "feel" like 2001 or 2006 or 2009.

I've been fooled in the past, by Levy (he won in the CFL!) and especially with the Mackovic hire (Oh, well he was Tom Landry's "Right Hand Man!").

But I wasn't fooled by Gansz, wasn't fooled by Gunther, wasn't fooled by Vermeil and wasn't fooled by *****'s bunch.

I could be wrong and maybe I'm being fooled again. But right now, I think they've made some solid moves and I'm hopeful.

Check back next Spring.
The 90s Chiefs plopped into the modern NFL would be even more dead in the water than they were then.

Besides, the only thing Carl ever built was something that clearly wasn't good enough.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:35 PM   #14
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The 90s Chiefs plopped into the modern NFL would be even more dead in the water than they were then.

Besides, the only thing Carl ever built was something that clearly wasn't good enough.
Yeah but all intents and purposes, every Chiefs fan had passion for each and every Sunday.

As a fan that's nearly 2,000 miles from KC that's watched a horrible team for the better part of 15 years, my hope is a consistently competitive football team.

Championships aside, this team hasn't won a playoff game in more than 20 years. I'm worn out. I'm spent. I drove all over Los Angeles to watch the Chiefs on a 19" TV for a decade and spent more than $3,000 dollars on the Sunday Ticket in the past 10 years, not to mention travel to other cities, only to watch them lose.

A playoff win would be nice.

Ugh.
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While I respect your opinion, I'd prefer to wait until after Reid and Smith's first season in KC before shutting the door on any possibilities.

2013 "feels" like 1989 to me. It doesn't "feel" like 2001 or 2006 or 2009.

I've been fooled in the past, by Levy (he won in the CFL!) and especially with the Mackovic hire (Oh, well he was Tom Landry's "Right Hand Man!").

But I wasn't fooled by Gansz, wasn't fooled by Gunther, wasn't fooled by Vermeil and wasn't fooled by *****'s bunch.

I could be wrong and maybe I'm being fooled again. But right now, I think they've made some solid moves and I'm hopeful.

Check back next Spring.
Ya lets get a new retread QB every 2-3 seasons and watch our draft picks get old and waist away on the roster and wonder why we never win shit in the playoffs.
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