Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 136

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

-King- · 11-15-2018, 02:45 AM

I predict he starts practicing during the bye week and comes back after that. Maybe even a limited participation practice this week...
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BlackOp · 11-15-2018, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I predict he starts practicing during the bye week and comes back after that. Maybe even a limited participation practice this week...
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Even if that's the case...it doesn't let the "day to day" excuse, for 3 months, slide.

Did Berry's heal miraculously start to feel better this week?

This team is in HFA contention and one week's rest doesn't make a discernible difference at this point. It's not like a Hamstring pull...

It means he could have gone earlier...but chose not to.

This is a PR coverup for a contractual blunder....that was ushered in by Chunt giving Berry the moon against the GM's wishes.

They are trying to shield Chunt from looking like a fool to the public...and getting played by Berry.

It's to the point where Reid barely even mentions him in the weekly presser...like it's no big deal that your $13 million Safety still inst practicing 27 game checks later.

This stupid, internal drama was instrumental in getting Dorsey fired... and was drummed up by Berry and his agent. Now they all look like tools...except Dorsey. He was right...end of story.

-King- · 11-15-2018, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Even if that's the case...it doesn't let the "day to day" excuse, for 3 months, slide.

Did Berry's heal miraculously start to feel better this week?

This team is in HFA contention and one week's rest doesn't make a discernible difference at this point. It's not like a Hamstring pull...

It means he could have gone earlier...but chose not to.

This is a PR coverup for a contractual blunder....that was ushered in by Chunt giving Berry the moon against the GM's wishes.

They are trying to shield Chunt from looking like a fool to the public...and getting played by Berry.

It's to the point where Reid barely even mentions him in the weekly presser...like it's no big deal that your $13 million Safety still inst practicing 27 game checks later.

This stupid, internal drama was instrumental in getting Dorsey fired... and was drummed up by Berry and his agent. Now they all look like tools...except Dorsey. He was right...end of story.

Wtf do you mean "don't let it slide". Wtf are you going to do? Fight chiefs players? Protest outside of Arrowhead?

You're a funny guy.
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Flying High D · 11-15-2018, 05:38 AM

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**Baby Lee** · 11-15-2018, 06:04 AM

NFL picked an opportune time to put of 'Ten Ten Safeties of All Time'

Of course, there's a Chief featured in there. Of course, it's not who we want, or why we want a Chief in there.

farmerchief · 11-15-2018, 06:14 AM

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Bosa is back to practice. Berry on the other hand...

Amazing, and he even had his foot amputated and an artificial foot sewed on, just so he could play. Talk about TOUGH! You listening, Eric?

GloryDayz · 11-15-2018, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Man that looked brutal, so the speculation is that's what happened to Burry?

Rumor has it that this cat attacked him on the back of his leg and he's been lame ever since...

Here's the same cat caught setting Berry up for a(nother) career-ending trip/fall:

GloryDayz · 11-15-2018, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I predict he starts practicing during the bye week and comes back after that. Maybe even a limited participation practice this week...
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Let's hope they bring in the Budweiser clydesdales to observe practice for the rest of the season. Have some VooDoo lady say that they're there to rid the complex of evil spirits.

It's a thing ya know...

**penguinz** · 11-15-2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I predict he starts practicing during the bye week and comes back after that. Maybe even a limited participation practice this week...
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Monday would make the most sense for first game played. Get the extra week to recover after not being active for so long.

GloryDayz · 11-15-2018, 08:06 AM

Day 96 of "not today", so we're still here?

Berry's weak and not a gladiator!

TEX · 11-15-2018, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Day 96 of "not today", so we're still here?

ChiefRocka · 11-15-2018, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Day 96 of "not today", so we're still here?

Berry's weak and not a gladiator!

ok this is pretty good

Flying High D · 11-15-2018, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Let's hope they bring in the Budweiser clydesdales to observe practice for the rest of the season. Have some VooDoo lady say that they're there to rid the complex of evil spirits.

It's a thing ya know...

She needs to jingle those chicken bones, drip a little bat blood and smoke some dead coal miners ashes and Berry be better shape than Bosa. This Ground Hog Day shit for 96 days is getting old. Weekend at Berry’s, bullshit, more like 104 weekends at Berry’s.

FloridaMan88 · 11-15-2018, 08:54 AM

When freaking Joey Bosa, who basically makes not being available/having lingering injuries an art form (and it apparently runs in the family) is back before Eric Berry that is pathetic.

Day 96 of Eric Berry's "Day to Day" Extravaganza.

O.city · 11-15-2018, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

When freaking Joey Bosa, who basically makes not being available/having lingering injuries an art form (and it apparently runs in the family) is back before Eric Berry that is pathetic.

Day 96 of Eric Berry's "Day to Day" Extravaganza.

So I think the Bosa family has held him out. Weird conspiracy theory but I think they want him out and to get that next deal asap. Weird shit.

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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1796899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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