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Old 11-13-2012, 04:45 PM   #1
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Yep, that says "Chiefs"!

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Barkley may be "safer" because he's a proven four year starter at one of the nation's best universities.

No first round pick is immune to being a bad pick in the NFL but going with the "safe bet" at quarterback isn't necessarily a "bad" thing.

Locker and Gabbert weren't safe bets and I wouldn't take either. It's pretty clear to me that Sarkissian, Locker's coach (and Leinart & Sanchez's coach) coached those guys up big time.

Barkley has succeeded despite being coached by Kiffin.
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Old 11-13-2012, 04:48 PM   #2
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Barkley may be "safer" because he's a proven four year starter at one of the nation's best universities.

No first round pick is immune to being a bad pick in the NFL but going with the "safe bet" at quarterback isn't necessarily a "bad" thing.

Locker and Gabbert weren't safe bets and I wouldn't take either. It's pretty clear to me that Sarkissian, Locker's coach (and Leinart & Sanchez's coach) coached those guys up big time.

Barkley has succeeded despite being coached by Kiffin.
So, he's a perfect match for our mentally-challenged coaching staff?

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Old 11-13-2012, 01:20 PM   #3
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Right now my preference would be:

1. Wilson
2. Smith
3. Barkley
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Old 11-13-2012, 02:14 PM   #4
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Right now my preference would be:

1. Wilson
2. Smith
3. Barkley
This.

Ive been watching alot of wilson on youtube. I know its not the best way to judge but theres full games of every pass hes thrown.

He reminds me alot of favre. Hes going to be the kind of quarterback that will win alot of games for you, but will lose a few as well. I bet he can be a 4000yd/35td/15int consistently in the pros. Hes got an awkward throwing motion, but hes tough as nails, and has gobs of arm strength. I think i like him because he takes chances.

Hes the quarterback I want.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:20 PM   #5
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I don't know how to feel about Barkley. USC QBs scare the shit out of me. The last few have been awful pros. Sanchez, Leinart, Booty. Palmer has been solid and turned in a few good seasons.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:25 PM   #6
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I don't know how to feel about Barkley. USC QBs scare the shit out of me. The last few have been awful pros. Sanchez, Leinart, Booty. Palmer has been solid and turned in a few good seasons.
Different people. Different coaches. Different teams.

I know what you mean, but the guy has some good qualities. Most importantly, he seems mature.

Whatever QB we draft, has to be mentally tough.

That's why i like Wilson.

He needs to respond in the face of adversity and not crack under the pressure of leading a bad team.

He will inherit a seemingly bad team with little offensive weapons and a rabid fan base that is desperate for results.

He will have to come in and fix an offense that is the worst the NFL as seen since 1929.

That's a tall order, and it will require one tough SOB
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:26 PM   #7
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I don't know how to feel about Barkley. USC QBs scare the shit out of me. The last few have been awful pros. Sanchez, Leinart, Booty. Palmer has been solid and turned in a few good seasons.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:28 PM   #8
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Smith and Wilson are better under pressure than Barkley.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:29 PM   #9
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Smith and Wilson are better under pressure than Barkley.
I disagree.

I think production under pressure is Smith's biggest concern.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:31 PM   #10
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I disagree.

I think production under pressure is Smith's biggest concern.
Watch the Stanford clips and even Syracuse this year. Barkley's system protects him a lot. Against Syracuse I'd say 70% of his passes were 2 yards down field or less. He makes some boneheaded plays under pressure.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:35 PM   #11
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Watch the Stanford clips and even Syracuse this year. Barkley's system protects him a lot. Against Syracuse I'd say 70% of his passes were 2 yards down field or less. He makes some boneheaded plays under pressure.
I've watched plenty of both or them (though i will re-watch again and again im sure) and i recall Geno having the same issues. Geno also throws a lot of short stuff that his WR's take for big gainers.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:39 PM   #12
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I've watched plenty of both or them (though i will re-watch again and again im sure) and i recall Geno having the same issues. Geno also throws a lot of short stuff that his WR's take for big gainers.
Both Barkley and Smith benefit from YAC but that is because they put the ball in the perfect spot for the receiver to keep on going. No matter how open someone is, if the QB isn't very accurate there won't be those long pass plays with the receiver breaking it after the catch.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:29 PM   #13
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If Geno is there we will draft him.
Don't be so sure. We won't know till the Senior Bowl.
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Old 11-13-2012, 01:32 PM   #15
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Don't be so sure. We won't know till the Senior Bowl.
I doubt Smith plays in the senior bowl if he's projected to be a first round pick.
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