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Old 11-16-2012, 09:01 PM   #1
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Easy, champ. Calm down there.

I'm not saying the Elway sucks. I'm just not going to slobber over him for fielding a good team led by, oh, I don't know... PEYTON MANNING.

He gets credit as a front office personnel manager for his playing career and business acumen. The guy clearly said the right words to Manning to get him to sign there, likely referencing his own brilliant playing career to foster that relationship.

We'll see how well his drafts ACTUALLY translate after some more time. Those Chiefs starters we drafted long ago are 1-8 now, but in 2010 they looked just as impressive as Elway's guys do (excluding Von Miller, who is a significant grade above anybody Pioli has drafted). A toxic work environment, shitty coaching staff, and a few slapdicks at QB later, you get the 1-8 product you see before you.

John Fox is no Romeo Crennel, so I'm not saying your team would go 1-8 even if Manning got injured or retired. But you'll excuse me if I don't call Elway a ****ing football personnel genius just yet.
you don't get to discount his two best acquistions when evaqluating him as a GM... you're basically saying he is the same as Pioili if you remove Miller and Manning from the equation, who happen to be arguably offenive and defensive mvps of the league...thats ridiculous...

and just to clarify, its not impressive that elway decided to go after manning, many teams did... the part he gets credit for is convincing him to come to denver over all the other choices, where many thought wasnt a good fit for him...

and a crappy coaching staff and toxic work environment are part of the responsibilities of the GM/VP of Op as well, pioli owns that...i could name other players and coaches elway has brought in but i imagine you are aware of them for the most part...

whether you want to admit it or not, since elway has arrived as the guy in charge things have turned for Denver...
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you don't get to discount his two best acquistions when evaqluating him as a GM... you're basically saying he is the same as Pioili if you remove Miller and Manning from the equation, who happen to be arguably offenive and defensive mvps of the league...thats ridiculous...

and just to clarify, its not impressive that elway decided to go after manning, many teams did... the part he gets credit for is convincing him to come to denver over all the other choices, where many thought wasnt a good fit for him...

and a crappy coaching staff and toxic work environment are part of the responsibilities of the GM/VP of Op as well, pioli owns that...i could name other players and coaches elway has brought in but i imagine you are aware of them for the most part...

whether you want to admit it or not, since elway has arrived as the guy in charge things have turned for Denver...
You have yet to explain why I need to slobber over Elway as a great personnel guy.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:45 PM   #8
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you don't get to discount his two best acquistions when evaqluating him as a GM... you're basically saying he is the same as Pioili if you remove Miller and Manning from the equation,

and just to clarify, its not impressive that elway decided to go after manning, many teams did... the part he gets credit for is convincing him to come to denver over all the other choices, where many thought wasnt a good fit for him...

and a crappy coaching staff and toxic work environment are part of the responsibilities of the GM/VP of Op as well, pioli owns that...i could name other players and coaches elway has brought in but i imagine you are aware of them for the most part...

whether you want to admit it or not, since elway has arrived as the guy in charge things have turned for Denver...
Alright. My issue is tht Miller was about a big of a lay up as Berry was for us. I don't think many GM's make any other pick there besides him. I also think Manning went there in large part knowing that Elway would think like him as a QB. If Elway was a HOF CB I am not sure Manning is in Denver right now.
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Alright. My issue is tht Miller was about a big of a lay up as Berry was for us. I don't think many GM's make any other pick there besides him. I also think Manning went there in large part knowing that Elway would think like him as a QB. If Elway was a HOF CB I am not sure Manning is in Denver right now.
Elway having been the player he was would have definately had a major influence over manning.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:39 PM   #10
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Alright. My issue is tht Miller was about a big of a lay up as Berry was for us. I don't think many GM's make any other pick there besides him. I also think Manning went there in large part knowing that Elway would think like him as a QB. If Elway was a HOF CB I am not sure Manning is in Denver right now.
I doubted the Miller pick only because I didn't know WTF I was talking about at the time. I wanted a DT but there really weren't any available that were worth the draft spot. I think everyone that was really aware of his ability thought it was a no brainer pick. With that being said there were three other impact starters drafted(RT, DT, Safety), quality back ups drafted, and a group of Free Agents signed that have panned out well so far.

I think Elway being who he is had to be a huge factor in getting Manning. To a lesser degree Fox and the coaching staff showed with Tebow that they are all about just trying to do whatever works best on Offense, and the team did have some pieces in place already.
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