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Old 08-12-2016, 02:38 PM  
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Adam Gase: The NFL is a dink-and-dunk league

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Miami Dolphins new coach Adam Gase will run the offense that best suits his personnel, despite the catcalls for more deep throws.

When asked about an offense that throughout training camp has been a series of mostly dump-offs, screens, and short-to-intermediate routes, Gase was adamant that he's comfortable with an offense that exploits the horizontal aspect of the field more than the vertical.

"I'm fine with it. I'm the one scripting the plays, calling the plays," he said Wednesday, per the Miami Herald. "I've had a little success with what we do. There's a time and a place. There's also a time and a place not to get sacked 60 times in a year, too."

Gase's game plan in Miami not only has to do with his own personnel, but how he views the entire NFL.

"The whole league is 10 yards and under. That's what it is. Nobody is going down the field. There's one team that does it really, maybe two. Pittsburgh and Arizona. Hold onto the ball and they chuck it down the field," he said. "More teams than not, it's 10 yards and under. That's where all the passing game is. The D-ends are too good. If you want to stand back there and have your quarterbacks get your brains beat out, go at it."

Gase isn't wrong.

The top five quarterbacks in yards per attempt in 2015 were Carson Palmer (8.7 YPA), Andy Dalton (8.4), Ben Roethlisberger (8.4), Russell Wilson (8.3) and Tyrod Taylor (8.0), per Pro Football Reference. Palmer's 2015 season ranks 50th all time and nowhere near (((((((((Sid Luckman)))))))))'s top YPA of 10.9 in 1943. The likes of Tom Brady and Philip Rivers have made an art out of dicing up defenses with a diverse set of quick passes.

The NFL has gone from mad bomber to cerebral carver.

Among the top yards per attempt seasons in NFL history, Aaron Rodgers' 2011 average of 9.2 is the only one this decade in the top 20 (T-15). For reference, Nick Foles' magical -- and aberrational -- 2013 season ranks 23rd all time at 9.1 YPA, second only to 2011 Rodgers this decade (fourth-highest this millennium).

So, when you see the Dolphins' offense sticking to the quick passing game, it's not just Tannehill or Gase who are pro-dink and dunk. It's the overwhelming majority of the NFL, including notable Super Bowl champs.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...anddunk-league

What if I told you that the NFL is now an Alex Smith league?


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Old 08-13-2016, 12:48 PM   #76
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Huh? What? Besides Alex Smith, Brady and Brees had the worse deep ball completion %.

When? Provide some statistics.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:53 PM   #77
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Um, yes I can. Brady made the afc championships throwing to recheck Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney. And he played behind an ol that gave up 50+ sacks to cassel. Claiming Brady has been gifted with a great supporting cast is incredibly false
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Old 08-13-2016, 01:14 PM   #78
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This a general football discussion thread, not a dedicated KC Chiefs thread where licking of the boot is protected, safe zone speech.

Ban yourself, Black Bob.
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Old 08-13-2016, 05:13 PM   #79
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No, you can't.
Are you really this dense that you think Reche Caldwell, Ben Watson, and Jabar Gaffney in any way shape or form is a better trio than Maclin, Kelce, Wilson? I seem to recall that David Givens, Deion Branch, and David Patten were complete garbage after they left NE.

Claiming Brady's been surrounded by weapons to prop up Alex Smith is complete and utter nonsense.
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This a general football discussion thread, not a dedicated KC Chiefs thread where licking of the boot is protected, safe zone speech.

Ban yourself, Black Bob.
It's the continuation of shitting in every thread. He needs to go more perma-banned than before.
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Old 08-13-2016, 06:02 PM   #81
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It's the continuation of shitting in every thread.
This doesn't happen.

How many threads have I even posted in today? Two? Three?

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Old 08-14-2016, 04:26 PM   #82
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Ben Roethlisberger: I love the dink-and-dunk

PITTSBURGH -- Ben Roethlisberger admits it. He's had to have a different state of mind to flow in the revamped Pittsburgh Steelers offense installed by new coordinator Todd Haley.

Sort of like a hold-me-back mentality.

"I'm an aggressive type of guy. That's how I play the game," Roethlisberger told USA TODAY Sports on Thursday. "So I've had to dial it down. But it's just growing and taking what the defense gives you and trying not to make a big mistake."

HANDS OF STONE: What's up with (((Mike Wallace)))?

It's not that Roethlisberger, fifth in the NFL with a 98.6 passer rating, needed a makeover in his ninth season. He's led the Steelers to three Super Bowls, winning two. Yet the new scheme, which will be on display when the Steelers (3-3) host the Washington Redskins and rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III on Sunday, has reduced risk.

UGLY THROWBACKS: See what Steelers will wear Sunday

While Roethlisberger is not heaving the ball on deep throws as much as he has in recent years and is completing more passes than ever to running backs, he's also on pace for his fewest interceptions and sacks over a 16-game season.

The offense dictates quicker releases, addressing Roethlisberger's tendency in the past to hold onto the football longer -- which sometimes led to big gains on extended plays but also exposed him to big hits and sacks.

When Roethlisberger described it a "dink-and-dunk" system recently, it raised eyebrows.

"That wasn't meant in a negative way," Roethlisberger said. "Coach Haley and I had a laugh about it this morning. To dink and dunk, that's moving the chains, and it will open up big plays. The Patriots dink and dunk, too."

Pittsburgh leads the NFL with an average time of possession of 34 minutes, 49 seconds. Yet unlike previous ball-hogging units, this is not classic Steelers football with a smashmouth rushing game. They are averaging an NFL-low 3.5 yards per rush, and the 26th-ranked running game -- down to its third-string running back -- has logged just 25.8 times attempts per game.

Haley, the former Kansas City Chiefs coach, insists that the identity of the scheme is evolving.

"It's not my offense," he said. "It's our offense. It's Ben's offense."

Roethlisberger, for one, would like to couple the scheme with no-huddle sequences.

"I know he wants to and I want to," Haley said. "He'd go no-huddle the whole game. We practice it every week. That'll come. It's still new for all of us."

Others also lobby for more aggressiveness. Big-play receiver (((Mike Wallace))) is averaging 13.7 yards per catch -- 5 yards less than in his first three seasons. He'd like more shots down the field.

"That's my favorite thing, to catch bombs," Wallace said. "But I'm not mad about it."

Wallace says he's noticing more deep passes in the game plan each week.

"Hopefully, by Week 10, we'll be slinging it all the time," he said. "And those shots will be there, because (opposing cornerbacks) are really kind of sleeping on it, thinking we're not doing it too much."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...haley/1659497/
lol how the times have changed for Ben.
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Old 08-14-2016, 04:33 PM   #83
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lol how the times have changed for Ben.
Yeah, the difference is; when it's time to let fly and keep a defense honest, Big Rape can actually execute such a maneuver.

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Yeah, the difference is; when it's time to let fly and keep a defense honest, Big Rape can actually execute such a maneuver.

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Alex has 15 4th quarter comeback wins, that's more than Steve Young.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm
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Alex has 15 4th quarter comeback wins, that's more than Steve Young.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm
Big Ben has 2 rings.

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Alex has 15 4th quarter comeback wins, that's more than Steve Young.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...cks_career.htm


And in eight of those "comeback wins" he failed to throw a TD pass.

In ELEVEN of them he had less than 200 yards passing.

He's a mother****ing hero!
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