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Old 08-28-2014, 11:30 PM   #1
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Johnny Manziel did not throw a single INT this preseason.

Chiefs fans should love him!
He was 6/17 against back-ups. Fantastic!

Also, how is EJ Manuel doing?

Just saying, 1st round QBs are far from guaranteed to succeed.
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He was 6/17 against back-ups.
And no INTs?

He's downright Alex Smithian!
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1st round QBs are far from guaranteed to succeed.
AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS
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Just saying, 1st round QBs are far from guaranteed to succeed.
And neither are OTs.

COULD IT BE THAT NO POSITION IS GUARANTEED IN THE NFL DRAFT????
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There is only one place you find guys who can make throws like that throw Bortles made.

If you ever want to have a prayer of adding an explosive element to your passing game, get a R1QB.

Or round 2 if he falls because he's black.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:39 PM   #6
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There is only one place you find guys who can make throws like that throw Bortles made.

If you ever want to have a prayer of adding an explosive element to your passing game, get a R1QB.

Or round 2 if he falls because he's black.
There are plenty of examples that prove otherwise, but sure.
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There are plenty of examples that prove otherwise, but sure.
Really? The ****?

Tell me where you find a 6-5 guy with a cannon arm that can make elite throws. Give me some ****ing examples.
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Really? The ****?

Tell me where you find a 6-5 guy with a cannon arm that can make elite throws. Give me some ****ing examples.
Bortles does not have a cannon. He has really good touch and feel for the passing game though.

Great QBs found after the 1st, can make all the throws, or weren't drafted by the team they became great with? Some of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round picks or won with another team.

Tom Brady
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Joe Theismann
Bart Starr
Roger Staubach
Matt Hasselbeck
Rich Gannon
Tony Romo
Curt Warner
Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas

Etc, etc

Arguably the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round draft picks. (Montana, Brady, Starr, Unitas were all drafted in the 3rd or later.)

Does taking one in the 1st round improve your chances? Sure, but it largely depends on the quality of the QBs in that draft class. Just taking one for the sake of drafting a 1st round QB (Bills with EJ Manuel in 2013) in a crappy class will just set you back.

Now if a blue chip QB prospect is available (think Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, etc) by all means, go for it. If they aren't then it's better to wait, draft an elite player at a different position, and take your shot at a QB in the 2nd or later rounds while adding stronger pieces at other positions with your higher picks which will give whatever QB you bring in a better chance and less pressure to succeed.
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Bortles does not have a cannon.
Total ****ing bullshit.

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Tony Romo
Curt Warner
Dan Fouts
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Johnny Unitas
None of those guys had top end talent with arms that could destroy brick walls. Staubach, maybe, but that was a different time.

The guys coming out of college that look like sick ****ing freak monsters that do ridiculous shit with the football....they all go in the first round. That's where you get a guy like that. That's where you find Blake ****ing Bortles.
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Bortles does not have a cannon. He has really good touch and feel for the passing game though.

Great QBs found after the 1st, can make all the throws, or weren't drafted by the team they became great with? Some of the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round picks or won with another team.

Tom Brady
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Dan Fouts
Fran Tarkenton
Johnny Unitas

Etc, etc

Arguably the greatest QBs in the history of the NFL weren't 1st round draft picks. (Montana, Brady, Starr, Unitas were all drafted in the 3rd or later.)

Does taking one in the 1st round improve your chances? Sure, but it largely depends on the quality of the QBs in that draft class. Just taking one for the sake of drafting a 1st round QB (Bills with EJ Manuel in 2013) in a crappy class will just set you back.

Now if a blue chip QB prospect is available (think Andrew Luck, Peyton Manning, etc) by all means, go for it. If they aren't then it's better to wait, draft an elite player at a different position, and take your shot at a QB in the 2nd or later rounds while adding stronger pieces at other positions with your higher picks which will give whatever QB you bring in a better chance and less pressure to succeed.
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I believe I was off about Bortles being a sack of shit flying out of a truck. Kid looks pretty damn good...and it's weird watching it come from a Jaguar... Not used to them having a potentially elite dude behind center.

I will say this though... his passes seem to have an awkward, sudden downward slope right before the ball falls into his receivers' hands. It's weird. I think that is what threw me off when I watched him prior to the draft....gave me the illusion that his passes are wobbly. Hey, he's seemingly making it work... There's something unique about the way he throws the ball and the spin he puts on it that makes him totally unique, IMO.
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Looks like that receiver was covered, very scary.

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Looks like that receiver was covered, very scary.
2 risque.
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He isn't covered. He's got his man beat.
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He isn't covered. He's got his man beat.
He's "NFL open."

Alex Smith would never attempt that throw.
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