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Old 09-10-2014, 03:00 PM  
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Law Enforcement claims they sent Ray Rice vid to NFL in April

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ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, while league officers have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said they were unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because they wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.

The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.

The league says it has no record of the video, and no one in the league office had seen it until TMZ released it. When asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.

The person said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify the law enforcement official as the source.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell initially suspended Rice for two games following the February incident, but the Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely after the website TMZ released the video.

Goodell told CBS on Tuesday that "no one in the NFL, to my knowledge" had seen a new video of what happened on the elevator until it was posted online.

"We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity," Goodell said.

In a memo to the NFL's 32 teams on Wednesday, Goodell said that the league asked law enforcement for the video, but not the casino. "In the context of a criminal investigation, information obtained outside of law enforcement that has not been tested by prosecutors or by the court system is not necessarily a reliable basis for imposing league discipline," he wrote.

The video, shown to the AP on Monday, is slightly longer than the TMZ version, and includes some audio.

Rice and Janay Palmer — now Janay Rice — can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit at Rice right before he throws a brutal punch. After she collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, "She's drunk, right?" And then, "No cops."

Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.

Hours after portions of the video were made public by TMZ, Goodell suspended Rice indefinitely and Baltimore terminated his contract. He had originally been suspended for two games, and team officials had praised him for his apologies and actions after his arrest for aggravated assault.

Goodell and team officials said they were taking more severe action because of the violence in the video.

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Old 09-10-2014, 04:35 PM   #61
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Old 09-10-2014, 04:35 PM   #62
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-ne...video-sent-nfl

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive three months ago, while league officers have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.

The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. The person said they were unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited, because they wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.

The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer — who is now his wife — at an Atlantic City casino in February.

The league says it has no record of the video, and no one in the league office had seen it until TMZ released it. When asked about the voicemail Wednesday, NFL officials repeated their assertion that no league official had seen the video before Monday.

The person said he sent a DVD copy of the security camera video to an NFL office and included his contact information. He asked the AP not to release the name of the NFL executive, for fear that the information would identify the law enforcement official as the source.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell initially suspended Rice for two games following the February incident, but the Ravens released Rice on Monday and the NFL suspended him indefinitely after the website TMZ released the video.

Goodell told CBS on Tuesday that "no one in the NFL, to my knowledge" had seen a new video of what happened on the elevator until it was posted online.

"We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. But we were never granted that opportunity," Goodell said.

In a memo to the NFL's 32 teams on Wednesday, Goodell said that the league asked law enforcement for the video, but not the casino. "In the context of a criminal investigation, information obtained outside of law enforcement that has not been tested by prosecutors or by the court system is not necessarily a reliable basis for imposing league discipline," he wrote.

The video, shown to the AP on Monday, is slightly longer than the TMZ version, and includes some audio.

Rice and Janay Palmer — now Janay Rice — can be heard shouting obscenities at each other, and she appears to spit at Rice right before he throws a brutal punch. After she collapses, he drags her out of the elevator and is met by some hotel staff. One of them can be heard saying, "She's drunk, right?" And then, "No cops."

Rice had been charged with felony aggravated assault in the case, but in May he was accepted into a pretrial intervention program that allowed him to avoid jail time and could lead to the charge being purged from his record. A prominent New Jersey lawmaker called Tuesday for that decision to be reviewed.

Hours after portions of the video were made public by TMZ, Goodell suspended Rice indefinitely and Baltimore terminated his contract. He had originally been suspended for two games, and team officials had praised him for his apologies and actions after his arrest for aggravated assault.

Goodell and team officials said they were taking more severe action because of the violence in the video.
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Old 09-10-2014, 04:55 PM   #63
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I'm fully convinced that the NFL doesn't rig its games or get involved with conspiracies for or against teams, because they can't cover up shit.
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Old 09-10-2014, 04:59 PM   #64
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So this video that emerged, isn't the reason that Rice was suspended for two games in the first place?

Is this elevator thing a completely different situation and incident from the one that resulted in the two day ban from this year?

IMO, if this is the same incident for why he was suspended for two games, I don't understand why the video makes him earn a larger punishment.. The video looks bad no doubt and uncalled, but isn't this what Rice and his fiancιe said what happened and so he was punished for it? Or did they leave all of this dragging and hitting her out of there conversations with the NFL?
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:10 PM   #65
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So this video that emerged, isn't the reason that Rice was suspended for two games in the first place?

Is this elevator thing a completely different situation and incident from the one that resulted in the two day ban from this year?

IMO, if this is the same incident for why he was suspended for two games, I don't understand why the video makes him earn a larger punishment.. The video looks bad no doubt and uncalled, but isn't this what Rice and his fiancιe said what happened and so he was punished for it? Or did they leave all of this dragging and hitting her out of there conversations with the NFL?
That's where all of the uproar is coming from. It's double-jeopardy. The NFL had all of the information they needed to make this kind of judgement the first time around. They're now trying to cover their own asses, but are just digging themselves into a deeper hole. While you couldn't see the punch in the other video, the fact that he socked her was in the police report. That should have been enough. Now that the NFL has been outed for lying about receiving or having access to the in-elevator video, some heads are gonna roll I think.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:14 PM   #66
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I don't understand why the video makes him earn a larger punishment.
Come on man. Really!!??!!Really!!!??!!???

You see no difference between the first video and the second video? Are you trying to say that? Thats your position?
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:26 PM   #67
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We lets see now. He claims the Pats videos were burned and were not worth watching anyway during spygate and now this. Roger no doubt is cover up artist that does what has to be done to protect the NFL brand.

He is a liar.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:30 PM   #68
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I'm fully convinced that the NFL doesn't rig its games or get involved with conspiracies for or against teams, because they can't cover up shit.
They sure covered up those Spygate tapes nicely... they almost got away with this cover-up too until TMZ somehow got a hold of the tape.
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Come on man. Really!!??!!Really!!!??!!???

You see no difference between the first video and the second video? Are you trying to say that? Thats your position?
Because he wasn't suspended for pulling her out of an elevator. He assaulted her. The difference is he was punished already for what had happened in video 2. Regardless of if the public saw it or if it was a strict enough punishment to begin with.

if he gets longer than a 2 or 6 game suspension this year then he would have a good case to sue the nfl because this is allegedly his first offense. Domestic abuse in a private home, with no camera, isn't better than doing it on camera.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:42 PM   #71
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Could Rice parlay this into a boxing career?
NO.

But WWE?, oh yeah... he'd be the perfect heel kicking the shit out of chick wrestlers.
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Old 09-10-2014, 05:51 PM   #72
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The NFL is full of hypocrites. I could see if the followed their new policy and upped the suspension to 6 games for a first offense, but what the NFL did with this was ridiculously hypocritical. Why set a standard and then not follow it? Typical Goodell............
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You will never prove that Goodell himself watched the tape.

Thinking he is going to lose his job over this is laughable.
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IN all honesty its getting blown out of proportion anyway.

I don't see why anyone gives a **** if he did see it before but decided to use it as new evidence to give Rice the boot. **** Ray Rice I don't care.
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