Let's talk about the Patriots.

[Direckshun]

I've been encouraged by the fight in this Chiefs team over the past two games. I think we've got what it takes to take it to a Patriots squad that is truly reeling.

I think this is the first truly good opponent we beat since we upset New Orleans a couple years ago.

Let's take a look at the roster.

At QB, Tom Brady is having about as bad of a season as he's had -- just in time for me to have him in fantasy football. Thanks, Tom. Tom's got zero rapport with most of his receivers, and he's just flat missing throws. He looks unfocused, the skill positions around him are generally poor (with the one key exception of Julian Edelman), and they've struggled mightily through three weeks.

I like Shane Vereen, and I do wonder why they don't run him more. As of now it seems they're giving Stevan Ridley most of the carries, and he's got that great combo of size and speed, but his YPA has fallen for three years now, and he's only averaging 3.4/carry this year. Vereen's got a lot more wiggle to him, averaging nearly 5 yards a carry.

At receiver, I have no ****ing idea what's going on. You have the exceptional Julian Edelmen and nobody else. Danny Amendola has two week's worth of zero catches -- is he injured? Google doesn't turn up anything for me. Aaron Dobson, Brandon LaFell, and Kenbrell Thomkins round out the receivers corps. If it wasn't for Edelman, I'd say the Chiefs hands-down have the better WR corps -- which is ****ing saying something. And even with him...

The crown jewel of their passing attack, of course, was supposed to be Gronkowski at TE. Who, all told, has looked slower than Fasano.

Say it with me now: Alex Smith has better weapons at his disposal than Tom Brady does.

I have no idea what the Patriots were doing trading Logan Mankins away, because their OL is terrible. Solder and Vollmer are unremarkable at the tackles, I suppose they're good enough, but their interior of Cannon, Wendell, and Connolly are getting slaughtered this year. Poe, Bailey, Walker and Vickerson should feast.

Their defense is a ton better.

The best player on their team as of today is probably Vance Wilfork, who is going to make our guards look silly. I don't know what the Patriots gameplan on defense is, but it probably involves sending Wilfork screaming at McGlynn or Fulton. The Patriots also have two sneaky-good DTs complimenting him in Sealver Siliga (solid runstopper) and Joe Vellano (athletic 3-tech). Of course, they also have the potentially lethal Dominique Easley, who can play both DT and DE, and has an epic first step. He has struggled to get his footing so far, but he has made a couple plays that provide glimpses into the player he could become.

Chandler Jones is their primary rush threat off the edge, and he's done well so far this year. Rob Ninkovich has been around for what seems like 10 years or so, and is playing the best football of his life under Belichek the past three years -- which is to say, fairly okay passrushing and a couple sacks a month. And the Patriots have zero depth at passrusher.

They have one of the best LB corps in the league: Jamie Collins, Jerod Mayo, and Dont'a Hightower are all 1st and 2nd round picks, one of the only 4-3 teams in the league to actually do that -- which explains why they have zero playmakers. Collins is their finesse, Hightower is their power, and Mayo can do it all in the middle of the field. It will be extremely entertaining seeing Kelce try to matching up with them in his route-running and blocking. It will be a challenge.

Brandon Browner may be out, but the Pats are still stacked with talent at corner. We are going to have to win this game without Dwayne Bowe, as he will almost certainly disappear on Revis Island. Alonzo Dennard and Kyle Arrington are a good duo of backup CBs, and I love the potential of Logan Ryan.

Patrick Chung is terrible, but paired with the excellent Devin McCourty, you've got an alright safety lineup -- albeit with zero depth behind them.

Special teams feature one of the best kickers in the game in Gostowski, a middling punter in Ryan Allen, and the great Julian Edelmen returning punts.

[Direckshun]

You see, we can clearly see the Chiefs can't keep offenses from scoring, so long as we adjust the facts to our liking.

I think Clay's onto something here. In a related argument, I postulate that except for all of New England's good plays, they've played really badly.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You see, we can clearly see the Chiefs can't keep offenses from scoring, so long as we adjust the facts to our liking.

I think Clay's onto something here. In a related argument, I postulate that except for all of New England's good plays, they've played really badly.

There is no adjustment of the facts.

COLD HARD FACTS:

The ****ing Titans had over 400 yards and 26 points.

The Broncos had 7.1 yards per play, which is ****ing disgusting.

The D is bad. Offenses are going to score on this defense. Bottom 10 D, guaranteed. In yards AND points.

[DeathByArrows]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

There is no adjustment of the facts.

COLD HARD FACTS:

The ****ing Titans had over 400 yards and 26 points.

The Broncos had 7.1 yards per play, which is ****ing disgusting.

The D is bad. Offenses are going to score on this defense. Bottom 10 D, guaranteed. In yards AND points.

Doubtful. Unless Andy decides to bring Juan Castillo in for another go 'round.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Again, that performance is being completely overstated. Do you really think the Broncos would not have driven the length of the field for a game winning score if the offense had tied it?

The Broncos barely had the ball in the 2nd half. They ran only 46 plays for the game, because of our offense. That is the only reason they did not score. When they DID have the ball, they averaged 7.1 yards per play. That's almost a FULL YARD better than their season average last year.

You know where the Chiefs would rank if they had allowed 7.1 yards per play all last year?

DEAD LAST. By almost a FULL YARD. Shit, last year we sucked on D and we gave up 5.5 yards per play.

The defense sucks, and you're not only going to accept it, you will weep over it this coming Monday.

Denver punted how many times? Was it KCs offense causing those punts?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

Denver punted how many times? Was it KCs offense causing those punts?

Denver punted just three times.

Our defense is not good.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

There is no adjustment of the facts.

No, just IGNORING facts that don't support your point. You are extremely dishonest, Clay.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Denver punted just three times.

Our defense is not good.

A Payton manning offense was held to three punts (and some FG attempts) and you don't think that's a win for the defense? The smith kept the ball moving and kept PM off the field. Did you see Payton stewing on the sideline? That was glorious, he actually took off his helmet. How often does that happen?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by splatbass

No, just IGNORING facts that don't support your point. You are extremely dishonest, Clay.

No defense that allows 7.1 yards per play played well. Period.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by crazycoffey

The smith kept the ball moving and kept PM off the field.

Yes, good job by Alex to prop up the defense.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

No defense that allows 7.1 yards per play played well. Period.

you play to win the game

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by HeatEquation

Pats fan here.

I really don't think you have much to worry about in regards to our offense. It's not so much that Brady and his receivers aren't in sync, it's that the Oline is just flat out horrendous. So unless we figure things out from now until Monday, the offense won't be putting up big numbers.

The defense on the other hand has played well. #2 in the league in total yards allowed per game, #1 in passing yards allowed per game, and #5 in points allowed per game. And yes, I know we haven't faced stiff competition yet, but in previous years we would have given up a ton of yards and TDs to QBs like Cassel and Tannehill, and even rookies like Carr. So the D is certainly vastly improved - especially in the secondary. LB corps is also solid, and Chandler Jones is having a great year so far. I'm sure Belichick will come up with a different gameplan on D than in the first 3 weeks given that Smith is easily the best QB we have faced this year.

Going into KC in prime time will be tough, I imagine. I predict a very low scoring game. Something like 13-7.

You seem nice.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

The defense did not look good 2 out of 3 games.

Look at the talent on the defense. It will not hold up over the course of a year. Can't play Tannehill every week.

expert cherry picker bud. Expert cherry picker!

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You see, we can clearly see the Chiefs can't keep offenses from scoring, so long as we adjust the facts to our liking.

I think Clay's onto something here. In a related argument, I postulate that except for all of New England's good plays, they've played really badly.

I'm big on Jeff Linkenbach, he seems down to earth ya know?

[Jiu Jitsu Jon]

Nano blitz. When done right, no can defense.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Again, that performance is being completely overstated. Do you really think the Broncos would not have driven the length of the field for a game winning score if the offense had tied it?

The Broncos barely had the ball in the 2nd half. They ran only 46 plays for the game, because of our offense. That is the only reason they did not score. When they DID have the ball, they averaged 7.1 yards per play. That's almost a FULL YARD better than their season average last year.

You know where the Chiefs would rank if they had allowed 7.1 yards per play all last year?

DEAD LAST. By almost a FULL YARD. Shit, last year we sucked on D and we gave up 5.5 yards per play.

The defense sucks, and you're not only going to accept it, you will weep over it this coming Monday.

You'll say anything to downgrade this team.

TOP - KC 36 min. - Den 23 min.

TOP - Den 27 min. - Sea 38 min.

As you can see we arent the only ones playing keepaway with Denver, also, if we sucked ass last year giving up 5.5 pp, what does it say that Seattle gave up 5.9 to Denver?

Have you stopped to think that maybe the reason they went for 7.1 against us is because they were forcing the ball downfield, trying to make up for the TOP disparity?

Considering not only the key injuries and inactive players, but also all of the times - particularly early in games - where the offense hangs them out to dry with repeated 3 and outs and 6 and outs... I'd say they've played pretty damn well.