Chiefs Trade G Rishaw Johnson To Buccaneers For S Kelcie McCray

[TLO]

http://nfltraderumors.co/chiefs-trad...kelcie-mccray/

Buccaneers HC Lovie Smith announced Thursday that they have traded S Kelcie McCray to the Chiefs in return for G Rishaw Johnson, per the Pewter Report.

Johnson, 25, signed with the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent out of California University of Pennsylvania. he was reportedly competing with rookie Zach Fulton for the Chiefs right guard position.

There is no question the Buccaneers could use some extra depth at guard, which appears to be one of their biggest issues on their current roster.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The talent cliff people panic about when our superstars leave is so ridiculously overblown. These superstars who have never won a playoff game.

If you keep drafting well and you free up money to invest in other superstars, those guys can be replaced. But you have to keep drafting well. And you know what, even if we keep our superstars, we have to draft well. So it all comes down to the draft. Did I mention that?

then don't ****ing trade two 2nd round picks for a 29 year old QB if you want to draft well.

tank, and use your draft picks. Stop cap strapping this team with a bunch of 28/29 year old veterans that provide nothing. Don't give a 29 year old WR 50 ****ing million.

[O.city]

Someone smarter than I would have to look to be sure but I'm pretty sure none of the contracts handed out last year are any that hamstring the club after this year (ie keeping them from signing Houston or berry).

They could have structured contracts accordingly if they wanted to this offseason to get guys. The "no money" excuse is simply that.

It doesn't really matter who they bring in as free agents in large part. It has been an always will be about drafting well and more importantly developing said draft picks.

Up to this point we have no idea about this regimes ability to do te latter

[O.city]

I don't think yanking last year was an option in terms of team PR. As much as that sucks

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by O.city

Someone smarter than I would have to look to be sure but I'm pretty sure none of the contracts handed out last year are any that hamstring the club after this year (ie keeping them from signing Houston or berry).

They could have structured contracts accordingly if they wanted to this offseason to get guys. The "no money" excuse is simply that.

It doesn't really matter who they bring in as free agents in large part. It has been an always will be about drafting well and more importantly developing said draft picks.

Up to this point we have no idea about this regimes ability to do te latter

pretty sure if you cut Fasano you eat 2-4 million in dead money. As is the same for Sean Smith, Vance Walker, Joe Mays, Donnie Avery, etc.

These 2 million in dead money stack and before you know it 10-12 million in dead money is against our cap for a full season all because we cut a bunch of JAGs.

So the option is let them play out the duration of their contracts, or cut them and have a real down year.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

then don't ****ing trade two 2nd round picks for a 29 year old QB if you want to draft well.

tank, and use your draft picks. Stop cap strapping this team with a bunch of 28/29 year old veterans that provide nothing. Don't give a 29 year old WR 50 ****ing million.

The 2013 draft, and this draft, should have been about maximizing your draft resourses.

Trade the 1st overall for the best package you can get, even if you don't get market value because the draft sucks.

Trade down early and often, and get as many picks as you can to build with.

We ain't winning shit for at least 3 years from now with the approach that was taken.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by bobhill

It should go Stephenson LT, Hudson LG, Kush C, Fulton RG, Fisher RT. Fisher at RT at least until we recovers from his surgery some more or something, thats just IMO

I was thinking this as well. Stephenson looked serviceable at LT filling in for Albert and Fisher wasn't bad at RT towards the end of the season.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

pretty sure if you cut Fasano you eat 2-4 million in dead money. As is the same for Sean Smith, Vance Walker, Joe Mays, Donnie Avery, etc.

These 2 million in dead money stack and before you know it 10-12 million in dead money is against our cap for a full season all because we cut a bunch of JAGs.

So the option is let them play out the duration of their contracts, or cut them and have a real down year.

I'm not sure the contract details, so I can't comment on that part although I'm pretty sure Mays and Walker can be cut easier, but I could be wrong. However, we haven't even seen them play a game with this coaching staff yet.

Thing is though, all of those guys you mentioned are serviceable players. The problem is that they are being asked to play bigger roles. As much as we'd like it to be, the roster won't be made up of 53 badasses. Even the Broncos/Pats/Seahawks have those types of guys. They're just down a slot on the depth chart.

Thats where this year is going to be made or broken. If Albert Wilson and Hammond or whoever at WR are able to push Avery down to the 3rd WR, thats great. Same with Mays or Fasano or Smith.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Only? Only?

Lack of a consistent plan is a huge issue. Either rebuild or win, flopping back and forth is death.

We shouldn't have traded for Alex Smith
We shouldn't have paid Bowe a billion dollars
We shouldn't have signed Sean Smith

All that talent that got us to the playoff, which isn't apparently good enough to win now with, should have been traded/dumped.

....etc,etc,etc

You want to talk about our salary cap being worse than we think? What Dorsey did last year made it worse, much worse.

I haven't seen anything particularly good about the way Dorsey drafts either.

Cluster **** central

What if the Chiefs drafted Richardson last year instead of Fisher?

Compare that to if we drafted geno. By the way, I would have been okay drafting geno even at 1.1.

That would have been a 3 year plan too, would it not?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

then don't ****ing trade two 2nd round picks for a 29 year old QB if you want to draft well.

tank, and use your draft picks. Stop cap strapping this team with a bunch of 28/29 year old veterans that provide nothing. Don't give a 29 year old WR 50 ****ing million.

Yeah, let's see you purposefully tank seasons with your job on the line.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What if the Chiefs drafted Richardson last year instead of Fisher?

Compare that to if we drafted geno. By the way, I would have been okay drafting geno even at 1.1.

That would have been a 3 year plan too, would it not?

This wasn't a 3 year plan.

This was a quick fix, get butts in the seat 1 year plan, followed by a 2 year purge cap plan, followed by a 3 year build plan.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What if the Chiefs drafted Richardson last year instead of Fisher?

Compare that to if we drafted geno. By the way, I would have been okay drafting geno even at 1.1.

That would have been a 3 year plan too, would it not?

Geno Smith. You guys would be cussing the hell out of this FO even more if they took Geno and he played the way he did last year.

[el borracho]

Relax, Chiefs have a futon to take his place.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think yanking last year was an option in terms of team PR. As much as that sucks

I completely agree. People forget that the fans revolted just the season before. I don't know how anybody thinks tanking was even close to an option.

And while everybody brings up that Alex Smith was worth two 2nd rounders…. The truth is, if we assume that the Chiefs drafted Sheldon Richardson instead of Fisher, we'd be talking about Alex Smith + Sheldon Richardson, while passing up Geno Smith and a second round pick. For those who think we should have drafted Geno, we basically only gave up a second rounder for Smith.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Yeah, let's see you purposefully tank seasons with your job on the line.

If Dorsey decided not to sign all those shit ****ers, is that "purposeful tanking"?

It was a mistake to make a push for the playoffs so goddamn soon. ****, it's hard to even believe Dorsey had playoffs on the brain after taking over a 2-14 team. In most circumstances the team would have improved to 8-8 or so, which seemed to be Dorsey's goal given the parameters of the Alex Smith trade.

So he wanted to **** over our salary cap for one year of 8-8 and then fade into the distance with a cap-strapped team and very little in terms of star players?

That was pure dumbassery.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Geno Smith. You guys would be cussing the hell out of this FO even more if they took Geno and he played the way he did last year.

I didn't give a **** about last year. I was expecting more losing. I had put up with it years before. I was ready for the team to make REAL changes to the roster, build up, and try again.

Instead, Dorsey took our car with a bad transmission, gave it a new coat of paint, and said, "Look! Good as new! She'll be running smooth for the next 5-6 years!"