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Old 01-30-2013, 08:58 AM   #1
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Yeah, I've read a few places that think Chip Kelly will be looking for "his guy" to fit the style of offense he wants. Makes it even more crazy people talking a trade down.

Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in 1st in 30 years, and have never had the first pick. Gee, I wonder what's missing from this franchise?

One can only hope for all that is Holy we use it on Geno.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:35 PM   #2
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:19 PM   #3
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On Jarvis Jones falling (He has him going #17 in his latest mock):

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Jarvis Jones Expected To Slide on Draft Day
Published Jan. 18, 2013
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Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones had been one of the most dominant football players in college football the past two seasons. He's destroyed the SEC for those two years, as many consider him to be one of the most talented players in the 2013 NFL Draft class. Jones is on top of my 2013 NFL Draft Big Board, as well as ESPN's Mel Kiper's.

However, after speaking with scouts at the East-West Shrine Game who have Jones in their territory, they say they expect Jones to slide down and fall out of the top five next April.

The scouts said there are a few reasons that could add up to Jones falling into the 6-10 range. First of all, the scouts said that Jones is not a good workout guy. They don't believe that he is going to test well or stand out in the Combine or pre-draft workouts. Area scouts who cover Georgia say that Jones is not a weight-room guy. He doesn't put a lot of work in during the week, but would show up on Saturday and dominate naturally.

They said that Jones is a good guy and a good teammate, but just isn't a tireless worker. As one scout said, "Don't get me wrong, if you watch his tapes you'll say he is worth being the No. 1 rated player and going in the top five of the draft. You can watch him on Saturdays and see that this guy is animal. He's clearly the best player on the field, but not a guy that you'll be in love with during the week. Add in the medical concern and with the testing, and I think he's going to slide some on Draft Day."

Jones' medical condition is a spinal stenosis that happened as a freshman at USC. On a routine hit against Oregon, Jones sustained the injury. A specialist told him he would be fine, but USC's doctors wouldn't clear him and told him he should retire from football. After transferring to Georgia, Jones broke out as one of the best players in college football.

As a junior, Jones had 85 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, three passes broken up and one interception in 2012. Jones had massive performances against Florida and Missouri with consistently good outings all year. Jones led the nation in sacks and for the second straight season had the most sacks in the SEC.

In 2011, he tied for the second-most sacks in the nation, 13.5. He also had 70 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss and two forced fumbles.

Jones could be a classic example of teams overthinking the draft process. Over the history of the draft, good players have slid because of an unnecessary medical concerns or not working out well at the Combine. If Jones plays in the NFL like he did at Georgia, he'll reward whomever takes him on Draft Day with plenty of teams feeling regret.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:39 PM   #4
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On Jarvis Jones falling (He has him going #17 in his latest mock):
That would be so sweet if he somehow fell to us at 34.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:45 PM   #5
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That would be so sweet if he somehow fell to us at 34.
If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:58 PM   #6
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If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.
The reason I really wanted Mercilus last year was that he provided flexibility and supreme depth. Additionally, with the way Tamba plays he's probably due for an injury or a very quick drop off IMO once he hits the wall.

If Rhodes, Rambo, and Banks had already been taken in addition to most of the usual 1st round projections, I'd consider moving up for him.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:40 AM   #7
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If he slips to 20 or so, I'd be on the phones trying to move up.
If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:59 AM   #8
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If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.
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If Jarvis Jones is there at 20, then that means there is something seriously wrong with him according to that report.

I'm not giving up picks for him when we have Houston and Tamba. Jones doesn't fit in our defense with them here and Tamba surely has at least 3 more productive years.
I am not extremely familiar with Jarvis Jones' condition. However, look at Da'Quan Bowers. No one wanted to touch him, he ended up going 51st. Even with missing time due to injury, he has (according to PFF) outplayed every 4-3 DE taken ahead of him: Robert Quinn, Adrian Clayborn, Cameron Jordan, and Jabaal Sheard.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:54 PM   #10
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I'm not trading picks for Jones. Nobody knows how long he is good for.

If he slides to 34, fine take him. But don't give up picks to get him.
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Look at that 2nd round. JFC....

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So... he has the Broncos taking Desmond Trufant in the first. Would trading for Revis take more than a #1 pick? If not, why not do that instead?
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Warren Sapp and Randy Moss were passed over too. But you don't use those guys to prove a point...

I don't know about spinal stenosis, but dude was a freak at UGA.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:31 PM   #15
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Warren Sapp and Randy Moss were passed over too. But you don't use those guys to prove a point...

I don't know about spinal stenosis, but dude was a freak at UGA.
Marcus McNeil was a top 10 elite left tackle prospect.

They discovered his stenosis at the combine I believe.

He fell to the 2nd round.

He played at a high level for 4 years and then started to break down. Now he's looking for a job.
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