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05-02-2013, 07:45 AM | #1 |
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OK, the Geno thing has officially reached the "laughable" point. You guys are ridiculous.
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05-02-2013, 07:45 AM | #2 |
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Tyler Bray was an undrafted free agent, Geno would've gone 1.1. Terrible comparison.
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05-02-2013, 07:48 AM | #3 | |
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but if your a udfa douche bag (biggest in draft, bar none), you can magically be developed? that makes sense because why?
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05-02-2013, 07:55 AM | #4 | |
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All the QB needy teams passed on Geno in the first round (let alone first overall), that should tell you something. After all this, I'm glad we passed on him. |
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05-02-2013, 07:57 AM | #5 | |
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but thanks for using the 'it risky!!' excuse in every thread you post...cracks me up
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05-02-2013, 08:00 AM | #6 |
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Yeah, it tells me he's a cheaper douche bag, and much easier to kick to the curb if he can't be bothered to learn anything.
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05-02-2013, 07:49 AM | #7 |
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Anyone who lists a quarterback that we should have taken over say Tyson Jackson, Dorsey, Baldwin, etc. should probably list the next QB taken – not the best QB taken with benefit of hindsight.
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Going back to 2000, here's the next QB that was taken after the Chiefs drafted. I think this is a much more fair measure than just picking the best QB in hindsight. I mean I know you're all brilliant GMs who definitely wanted Freeman over Sanchez at the time, but let's stick to what NFL GMs who actually spent approx. infitily more time analyzing the players came up with. I also listed the QBs we could have potentially traded up for, and the ones who were out of reach. 2012 1.11 Dontari Poe NT Memphis Next QB: 1.22 Brandon Weeden Prev QBs (we could have possibly traded up for): 1.8 Ryan Tannehill, 1.2 RGII (if we give away the farm) Out of reach: 1.1 Luck 2011 1.26 Jonathan Baldwin WR Pittsburgh Next QB: 2.35 Andy Dalton Prev possible QBs: 1.8 Jake Locker, 1.10 Blaine Gabbert, 1.12 Christian Ponder (any of those would have probably cost a 2012 #1, also barf) Out of reach: 1.1 Cam Newton 2010 1.5 Eric Berry SS Tennessee Next QB: 1.25 Tim Tebow (ok I'll grant McDaniels is insane, next QB after that? 2.48 Jimmy Clausen) Prev possible QBs: None Out of reach: 1.1 Bradford 2009 1.3 Tyson Jackson DE Louisiana State Next QB: 1.5 Mark Sanchez (Freeman after that) Prev possible QBs: None Out of reach: 1.1 Stafford 2008 1.5 Glenn Dorsey DT Louisiana State Next QB: none until we draft again 2008 1.15 Branden Albert T Virginia Next QB: 1.18 Joe Flacco (considered a big reach by most, but yeah a very good argument for "reaching" for a QB) Prev possible QBs: None Out of reach: 1.3 Ryan 2007 1.23 Dwayne Bowe WR Louisiana State Next QB: 2.36 Kevin Kolb Prev possible QBs: 1.22 Brady Quinn Out of reach: 1.1 JaWalrus (dammit!) 2006 1.20 Tamba Hali DE Penn State Next QB: 2.49 Kellen Clemens Prev possible QBs: 1.10 Matt Leinart, 1.11 Jay Cutler Out of reach: 1.3 Vince Young 2005 1.15 Derrick Johnson LB Texas Next QB: 1.24 Aaron Rodgers Prev possible QBs: None Out of reach: 1.1 Alex Smith 2004 2.36 Junior Siavii Next QB: 3.90 Matt Schaub (damn) Prev possible QBs: 1.22 JP Lossman, 1.11 Big Rape (maybe if we trade a #1) Out of reach: 1.1 Eli, 1.4 Rivers 2003 1.27 Larry Johnson RB Penn State Next QB: 3.88 Dave Ragone Prev possible QBs: 1.19 Kyle Boller, 1.22 Rex Grossman, 1.7 Byron Leftwich (maybe for a #1) Out of reach: 1.1 Carson Palmer 2002 6 Ryan Sims DT North Carolina Next QB: 1.32 Patrick Ramsey Prev possible QBs: 1.3 Joey Harrington Out of reach: 1.1 David Carr 2001 3.75 Eric Downing DT Syracuse Next QB: 4.106 Chris Wienkie Prev possible QBs: 2.1 Drew Brees, 2.53 Quincy Carter, 2.59 Marques Tuiasosopo (guessing not drafted as QB?) Out of reach: 1.1 Michael Vick, 2000 1.21 Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State Next QB: 3.65 Giovanni Carmazzi Prev possible QBs: 1.18 Chad Pennington (I'm sure everyone here was screaming for Tom Brady at 6.199) Out of reach: None All in all there's a lot of crap out there. I'm not saying I'm happy with the Chiefs by any means. But I think it's easy to cherry pick the spots like Flacco, Rodgers, Freeman and Brees, and forget about all the ones we dodged like butt-fumble, Jafatass, Young, Quinn, Jason Campbell, Clausen, etc. or all the years there just wasn't crap to pick from (like many are predicting for this year). |
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Wow. A damning list as far as Genobators and Drafturbators go. |
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2001 traded our first round pick for Trent Green. It was an alright move, not great because Drew Brees was the quarterback that was there for our pick and was top of our draft board. So the Chiefs ****ed up there. 2005, Rodgers fall was pretty unexpected. Most mocks had him going top 10 at the very least. Derrick Johnson was a major woody for everybody and we were duped into thinking we needed to tweak the defense for a Super Bowl run. Short sighted move on the Chiefs part though but that was the Vermeil years in general. 2008 taking Albert over Flacco. Flacco was considered a reach by many. Not to mention the Chiefs weren' done with the Brodie experiment just yet. 2009 major **** up with the Cassel trade. Worthless POS from February 28, 2009 when it happened. ****ed up everything. Chiefs are lucky we didn't get into major salary cap issues because of it. Giving 63 million to Cassell and then 57 to Jackson was stupid. Starting quarterback contracts are a given so that isn't that bad even if Sanchez would have gotten the 57 that Jackson got, we could have used Cassel's contract to help improve the team in other areas such as a 3-4 DE, etc. That would have been around 12 millon a year. Not to mention we could have gotten a productive player at the top of round 2 in the draft. Good chance we could have been better because we couldn't have gotten any worst than we are right now. Brees, Rodgers, Flaaco, and Sanchez. Thats the 4 we had a shot and passed and out of those it was really just Brees and Sanchez, who we passed on for Green and Cassel. |
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The Cassel trade on the other hand was bad, but the big mistake was committing to him for several years instead of bringing in real competition or finding a replacement after year 3.
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05-02-2013, 05:48 PM | #13 |
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That doesn't mean he wouldn't have helped the Chiefs.
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