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Old 05-23-2019, 10:12 AM  
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Darwin Thompson, James Williams are low-risk, high-reward running backs...

Hope we found a hidden gem or 2 at RB.

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The Kansas City Chiefs’ two-year, $5.1 million extension of veteran running back Damien Williams likely solidifies him as the team’s top back, but veteran talents behind Williams, Carlos Hyde and Darrel Williams, shouldn’t be awarded the luxury of solidified roles in Kansas City’s offense.

Hyde’s one-year deal signed in March already includes $1.5 million guaranteed, which should be enough to keep the Chiefs’ brass from parting ways before the start of the 2019 season. But the same can’t be said for Darrel Williams.

Signed as an undrafted free agent in 2018, the 6-foot-1, 229-pound Williams is a lumbering back with underwhelming speed and elusiveness. He rushed for 53 yards across 16 carries (3.3 yards per carry) as a rookie this past season, and his longest run went for eight yards. In his career-best season at LSU (2017), he rushed for 820 yards and nine touchdowns but averaged fewer than three yards after contact per carry and just 0.146 forced missed tackles per carry. He’s due just $10K in guaranteed money if released prior to the season, a small price to pay to push either Darwin Thompson or James Williams into the limelight.

DARWIN THOMPSON

A former three-star running back with zero offers coming out of high school, Thompson went from unsung JUCO product to human highlight reel with Utah State. The 5-foot-8, 198-pounder still didn’t receive an invite to the 2019 NFL Scouting Combine, however. Overlooked at every turn of his career, Thompson carries a hefty chip on his shoulder and has learned to thrive at the bottom of the depth chart – his play in 2018 is an example of that.

Thompson’s 2018 campaign is one of the best recorded in the PFF College era (2014-18). Among the 876 times an FBS running back has logged 100-plus carries in a single season, Thompson’s 2018 campaign ranks tied for 10th in forced missed tackles per carry (0.32) and ninth in yards after contact per carry (5.1).

Hauling in 24 passes for 367 yards and two touchdowns as part of his epic 2018 season, Thompson led all 83 FBS backs with 20 or more receptions in yards after contact per reception (18.5) and forced missed tackles per reception (0.542) on the year.

Already drawing some buzz in camp, Thompson is a poster boy for where the NFL is going. Elusiveness, contact balance and versatility have become more important than size and three-down ability for today’s running backs.

JAMES WILLIAMS

Put simply, Williams’ receiving production at the collegiate level is some of the best we at PFF have ever seen. No FBS running back has more targets (229), receptions (202), first-down receptions (72) or forced missed tackles on receptions (88) than Williams in the last five years.

Williams’ high receiving production and grades are a product of his ability to force missed tackles. Not only has he forced the most missed tackles on receptions in the PFF College era, but he also ranks fifth in forced missed tackles per reception (0.436) among the 73 FBS running backs with 75-plus targets since 2014. The first six on the list goes as follows: Alvin Kamara (0.493), Sony Michel (0.492), David Montgomery (0.471), Kenneth Dixon (0.446), Williams (0.436) and Christian McCaffrey (0.420).

As a result, Williams owns three of the top-15 single-season receiving grades recorded by an FBS running back in the PFF College era, and his 90.7 receiving grade in 2018 ranks sixth among the 264 qualifying single-season performances. McCaffrey (93.1) and Kamara (92.0) lead the list with their efforts in 2015 at first and second, respectively.

Williams was no slouch running the football, either. He ranked tied for 10th among qualifying backs in forced missed tackles per carry (0.30) and recorded the second-lowest percentage of carries where he was tackled on first contact (57.4%). His new teammate, Thompson, ranked fifth in the latter metric at 59.6%.
FINAL THOUGHTS

Investing a sixth-round pick and just under $130K guaranteed in both Thompson and Williams is an approach to the running back position all 31 other teams should follow. Signing Hyde to a one-year deal with $1.5 million guaranteed at signing is, quite frankly, the opposite.

Ideally, Kansas City’s brass finds a way to right the wrong and sprinkle both Thompson and Williams throughout their offense in 2019 rather than follow in Hue Jackson’s footsteps and hammer Hyde to the tune of 100-plus carries while better backs warm the bench.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:46 AM   #16
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Sounds a lot like Hareem Kunt.
This. Hunt was a 3rd round pick that shocked the sports world (outside of Arrowhead). I think Thompson stands a good chance to be even more of a shock as the final pick of the 6th round. He's stepping into the ideal situation with the Chiefs' offense. I would not be surprised to see him as the lead RB by game 8.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:52 AM   #17
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This. Hunt was a 3rd round pick that shocked the sports world (outside of Arrowhead). I think Thompson stands a good chance to be even more of a shock as the final pick of the 6th round. He's stepping into the ideal situation with the Chiefs' offense. I would not be surprised to see him as the lead RB by game 8.
I can see it happening, however, I think what may actually occur is that the Chiefs will utilize all their backs in a game plan instead of letting one guy get the bulk of the touches. Kinda like the Patriots have done in the past.

Look, we are a passing team. The days of us running the ball right at teams is over.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:56 AM   #18
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Look, we are a passing team. The days of us running the ball right at teams is over.
I think Thompson is a real threat in the passing game. He'll outrun LBs... and DBs will have a hard time bringing him down. His balance and yards after contact are pretty damn good. He reminds me a little of Hill: short strides, good agility and short stature with a thick body. Obviously, not near as fast as Hill. In fact, straight line speed is less than I would have expected at 4.50 in the 40. He looks faster on film from what little I've seen.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:15 PM   #19
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"Put simply, Williams’ receiving production at the collegiate level is some of the best we at PFF have ever seen. No FBS running back has more targets (229), receptions (202), first-down receptions (72) or forced missed tackles on receptions (88) than Williams in the last five years."

If things go as planned, we could have some freaking lethal receiving weapons coming out of the backfield this season. Can't express how impressed I am with the off-season Veach/Reid are having so far.
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I think Daryl may be done. If he makes the roster, I hope that Hyde is the odd man out.
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If things go as planned, we could have some freaking lethal receiving weapons coming out of the backfield this season. Can't express how impressed I am with the off-season Veach/Reid are having so far.
Stuff like this is why I think Mahomes could have a statistically BETTER year next year... if the running game becomes even more a the west-coast "get the ball to the RB in space" and the "short pass is as good as a hand off" type of offense.
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It's got to be tough for the equipment manager to sort out all of those 'Williams' jerseys.

Well except Xavier Williams' ought to stand out from the rest
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Barring injury, Damien & Hyde ($1.5 gtm) are making this team. The third RB spot comes down to James & Darwin. Whichever one shines in pre-season makes the roster, the other will likely get stashed on the practice squad. Darrell Williams will be cut.
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Barring injury, Damien & Hyde ($1.5 gtm) are making this team. The third RB spot comes down to James & Darwin. Whichever one shines in pre-season makes the roster, the other will likely get stashed on the practice squad. Darrell Williams will be cut.
I think they probably go ahead and carry 4 since Hyde is on a 1 year deal.
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Barring injury, Damien & Hyde ($1.5 gtm) are making this team. The third RB spot comes down to James & Darwin. Whichever one shines in pre-season makes the roster, the other will likely get stashed on the practice squad. Darrell Williams will be cut.
They carried a 4th last year as a developmental RB.

No reason to think they wouldn't do the same thing this year if Thompson and J-Will pop.
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Counting Sherman, that would be 5 spots devoted to the RB position. You really think the Chiefs are gonna carry that all year?

That's a valuable roster spot for someone (whoever 4th RB is) who is probably never gonna play this coming season. Makes more sense to stick one of the rooks on the practice squad. RB's don't often get poached there cause teams believe that position is easy to fill in their own ranks.
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I wonder if they could convert one of them to wide receiver like they did Hill. We've got good depth there too, if the Hill situation doesn't end badly. But these guys have good receiving skills, so it could be a possibility if they don't want to let anyone go. Another possibility is maybe trading one of them during preseason for a corner, like they did last year trading Ehinger for Ward.
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We had 4 RBs plus Sherman last year
I get that, but Spags likes to have lots of defensive guys to rotate and they've made it clear their off-season priority is over-hauling that defense.

I think it's MUCH more likely they give that extra roster spot to a defensive player than carry 5 RB's.
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Damien Williams, Carlos Hyde, Darwin Thompson, James Williams

No superstars there, but crazy depth. I’ll take a group like this over having 1 star with no legit backups anyday. This is the definition of running back by committee.
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