NFL Draft ***RYAN NASSIB*** - Page 10

fairladyZ · 02-08-2013, 07:52 PM

can't wait for the barkley reviews. hope its good!

fairladyZ · 02-08-2013, 08:03 PM

seems to me nassib lacks anticipation in his throws. which could turn into alot of NFL picks for sure

KCrockaholic · 02-08-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

seems to me nassib lacks anticipation in his throws. which could turn into alot of NFL picks for sure

Yep. This as well.

This is where Game film>Stats.

fairladyZ · 02-08-2013, 08:12 PM

oh boy!!! lol

Setsuna · 02-08-2013, 08:34 PM

To say Bray has "decent" arm strength is as ignorant as it gets. Out of all the QBs in this draft, he has the strongest by far.

silver5liter · 02-08-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna

To say Bray has "decent" arm strength is as ignorant as it gets. Out of all the QBs in this draft, he has the strongest by far.

Bray sucks

KCrockaholic · 02-08-2013, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandusksuna

To say Bray has "decent" arm strength is as ignorant as it gets. Out of all the QBs in this draft, he has the strongest by far.

When I said decent I didn't mean average or anything like that. What I was really meaning to say is that his arm strength is great, but he uses poor mechanics which really hinders his ball placement on the receivers. Arm strength is just not something I put a ton of stock into unless you're in the red zone. He gets it there fast, but that's about it. Like I've said, he worked with the best WR duo in the country. Hunter and Patterson are both freaks, especially Patterson, and yet he could only get Patterson 46 catches on the year, yet Patterson might be the best WR in this class.

fairladyZ · 02-08-2013, 08:45 PM

um nobody said he had decent arm strength. put the gun down

KCrockaholic · 02-08-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

um nobody said he had decent arm strength. put the gun down

I might've. At least I remember saying that to someone at some point.

KCrockaholic · 02-08-2013, 09:05 PM

Back to Ryan Nassib:

I don't know where secondroundstats got their info, but of the games I charted Nassib only completed 48% of his deep passes, further than 20 yards. And the issues I have is that his passes weren't well placed.

He's a "spot" thrower. In other words a timing passer, and not a great one at that.

He would've benefited from having a good receiver, but Syracuse was pretty weak at WR this year. They had plenty of drops. His game Vs Northwestern was not pretty, and they ranked 84th in the FBS in pass defense.

He threw a ridiculous 45 passes under 10 yards, and really wasn't that accurate at it considering he was throwing lasers from 5 feet away. His halfbacks on the checkdowns were just trying to cover their face to avoid a broken nose.

His pocket awareness is fairly average. At times made good adjustments to step up and make a throw, and he was abused vs Rutgers. I almost couldn't put those sacks on him. His O-line was giving him no time to throw. The best games by far were the ones against Mizzou, and Louisville. He has tools to work with, but it's gonna take a lot of time, and adjusts for him to work out at the next level. Whichever team he goes to can expect plenty of interceptions.

fairladyZ · 02-08-2013, 09:23 PM

thanks for the info on nassib, kind of what i thought aswell, good toolset but needs alot of work and molding to make right. would fit in good with a WCO and very good coaching to help bring him along. I think he needs to work on his footwork and anticipation or feel of his WR's better.

I just watched barkley against Stanford.. Looking forward to your take on it as opposed to mine.

Setsuna · 02-09-2013, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

um nobody said he had decent arm strength. put the gun down

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I think he benefited from 2 great receivers, and he actually hurt them more than anything. What he has going for himself is that he's tall, and has decent arm strength. But I see an inaccurate QB that has bad ball placement for his receivers. He's a little self obsessed I'd assume based on what I've seen. I just don't like him at all as a prospect. I'll elaborate more when the time comes. But I just see a lot more negatives than I do positives.

n00b. Such a dumbass I swear. Don't address me ever again. Seriously. ****ing prick.

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Bray sucks

As long as you think this, it makes me like him moreso.

And obligatory

ChiefMojo · 02-09-2013, 10:05 AM

If you like someone of low character, go ahead and draft Bray... I won't stop you.

In reality guys like Barkley, Nassib and even Wilson are going to take a little time to groom and this is where the whole talk of bringing in a FA QB like Alex Smith comes into the picture. Sure we all want the new drafted QB to play right away but in this class it might not happen immediately. Of course this is all based on the fact if we pass on Geno at #1 which could be a possibility.

Setsuna · 02-09-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

If you like someone of low character, go ahead and draft Bray... I won't stop you.

In reality guys like Barkley, Nassib and even Wilson are going to take a little time to groom and this is where the whole talk of bringing in a FA QB like Alex Smith comes into the picture. Sure we all want the new drafted QB to play right away but in this class it might not happen immediately. Of course this is all based on the fact if we pass on Geno at #1 which could be a possibility.

Yep because every QB in this draft has to be ****ing Andrew Luck or RGIII. JFC all of yall are scared as shit it's pathetic. If they get drafted in the first round, they start. Plain and simple. Especially top 10. And Alex Smith sucks.

fairladyZ · 02-09-2013, 01:19 PM

as intriguing as the kid is and as much upside as he is the kid is just a tool... sorry to burst your bubble.

he has all the talent in the word but is just a moron. he even proves it on twitter, going thru his twitter the kid just doesn't care, he doesn't take football seriously. according to him he's working on his "beach bod" rather than getting his ass ready for the combine to prove he can be THE guy. He's a spoon fed bitch and will probably get drafted just cause a team has a hardon for his skillset but will most likely never amount to shit.

If he took it serious and actually went to IMG or somewhere to workout rather than stay home and party at manhattan beach i'd probably like to give him a shot later in the draft. but i'll pass you can have him

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fairladyZ Starter Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $7455234	seems to me nassib lacks anticipation in his throws. which could turn into alot of NFL picks for sure
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Setsuna Paladin Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Gator Country Casino cash: $10008487	To say Bray has "decent" arm strength is as ignorant as it gets. Out of all the QBs in this draft, he has the strongest by far.
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fairladyZ Starter Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $7455234	um nobody said he had decent arm strength. put the gun down
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4662900	Back to Ryan Nassib: I don't know where secondroundstats got their info, but of the games I charted Nassib only completed 48% of his deep passes, further than 20 yards. And the issues I have is that his passes weren't well placed. He's a "spot" thrower. In other words a timing passer, and not a great one at that. He would've benefited from having a good receiver, but Syracuse was pretty weak at WR this year. They had plenty of drops. His game Vs Northwestern was not pretty, and they ranked 84th in the FBS in pass defense. He threw a ridiculous 45 passes under 10 yards, and really wasn't that accurate at it considering he was throwing lasers from 5 feet away. His halfbacks on the checkdowns were just trying to cover their face to avoid a broken nose. His pocket awareness is fairly average. At times made good adjustments to step up and make a throw, and he was abused vs Rutgers. I almost couldn't put those sacks on him. His O-line was giving him no time to throw. The best games by far were the ones against Mizzou, and Louisville. He has tools to work with, but it's gonna take a lot of time, and adjusts for him to work out at the next level. Whichever team he goes to can expect plenty of interceptions.
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fairladyZ Starter Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $7455234	can't wait for the barkley reviews. hope its good!
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fairladyZ Starter Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $7455234	thanks for the info on nassib, kind of what i thought aswell, good toolset but needs alot of work and molding to make right. would fit in good with a WCO and very good coaching to help bring him along. I think he needs to work on his footwork and anticipation or feel of his WR's better. I just watched barkley against Stanford.. Looking forward to your take on it as opposed to mine.
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ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	If you like someone of low character, go ahead and draft Bray... I won't stop you. In reality guys like Barkley, Nassib and even Wilson are going to take a little time to groom and this is where the whole talk of bringing in a FA QB like Alex Smith comes into the picture. Sure we all want the new drafted QB to play right away but in this class it might not happen immediately. Of course this is all based on the fact if we pass on Geno at #1 which could be a possibility.
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02-09-2013, 01:19 PM	#15
fairladyZ Starter Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $7455234	as intriguing as the kid is and as much upside as he is the kid is just a tool... sorry to burst your bubble. he has all the talent in the word but is just a moron. he even proves it on twitter, going thru his twitter the kid just doesn't care, he doesn't take football seriously. according to him he's working on his "beach bod" rather than getting his ass ready for the combine to prove he can be THE guy. He's a spoon fed bitch and will probably get drafted just cause a team has a hardon for his skillset but will most likely never amount to shit. If he took it serious and actually went to IMG or somewhere to workout rather than stay home and party at manhattan beach i'd probably like to give him a shot later in the draft. but i'll pass you can have him
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