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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 12-01-2016, 12:51 PM   #256
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I take it he means those they don't think will get $50 million deals. I would expect Hos and Moose to easily get that, based on length of contract alone.

Cain might be iffier given his age. He'll be 32 in April 2018. Will he get a 4-year deal for 2018-2021 with an AAV of around $13M? Or a 3-year deal with an AAV of more than $16M?

Davis I'm almost sure won't get $50M. So trade Cain and Davis now.
For Cain, it's really all about his health. If he stays relatively healthy and puts up another good year, I think he'll get much more than $50 million. He's only two years removed from being an MVP candidate. I think he'd be able to get an Alex Gordon contract, if nothing else. The Royals clearly played better with him in the lineup too.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:52 PM   #257
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:05 PM   #258
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So couldn't teams just cock block the previous team (the 50M contract for draft pick) by just making a contract with stupid bonuses. 4 year, 49million deal but said player gets 20million bonus for chewing gum etc.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:28 PM   #259
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So it basically will be like the pro bowl now
Pretty much. I think that the old format was okay because the ASG was generally worth the watch for the casual baseball fan. There was definitely a degree of competitiveness. Was it worth randomizing home field advantage for the WS? Probably not.. at all, but the MLB ASG is definitely one of the most enjoyable and traditional of the major sports. The new format just makes sense and should've been the rule the entire time.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:30 PM   #260
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Old 12-01-2016, 02:06 PM   #261
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Terrible CBA. We get screwed on our draft picks when guys we can't sign become free agents. The ASG no longer decides anything. I loved the fact that the ASG meant something. Now it's just a sham, once again. How is that good?
Never made sense for the ASG to decide home field advantage for the WS. It's an exhibition game. Might as well have the home run derby decide home field.
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Old 12-01-2016, 02:14 PM   #262
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For Cain, it's really all about his health. If he stays relatively healthy and puts up another good year, I think he'll get much more than $50 million. He's only two years removed from being an MVP candidate. I think he'd be able to get an Alex Gordon contract, if nothing else. The Royals clearly played better with him in the lineup too.
Watch Fowler.

Roughly the same age. Cain's a better player (probably) though Fowler has a better health history.

I suspect that both Cain and Davis will beat $50 million if they stay healthy. Davis, when healthy, is on par with guys like Chapman and Jansen - those two guys are going to approach $80+ million, IMO. Hell, I think Melancon will approach $50 million and he's both older and nowhere near as good as Davis.

This diminishes KC's leverage and their draft compensation a little bit, but not by a ton. My biggest issue is that it's making it a tad easier for the big money teams to crush FA signings again.

But on the flipside it's making it harder for them to corner international FAs so there may be some benefit there. How much remains to be seen as when there's a cap across the board and everyone's offering max, it's situations/market that can sell a player and big market teams have an advantage there as they have their high-dollar academies set up and an international presence due to TV.

Personally I think this CBA is a small step backwards in terms of parity and big/small market distinction. I don't think it's an enormous one, but a step back nonetheless.
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sorry for spelling dick, not sure why people have to point stuff like this out. Does it make you feel better about yourself?
I honestly had no idea what player you were talking about when your spelling is that bad.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:26 PM   #264
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I honestly had no idea what player you were talking about when your spelling is that bad.
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All I know is Staumont is going to be the mo***f****** man next year. #5 starter who comes in and tears it up.
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He has the ability to do it. Question is if he can throw enough strikes. He threw around 150 innings in the minors/Arizona Fall League in 2016, so he's positioned to handle 190-200 this season.

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Interesting and sneaky little move. Quick review shows me the Angels drafted Ruxer out of Louisville right after he had TJ surgery in 2014.

Opens up a spot on the 40 man while also adding an intriguing arm entering only his second full season since getting 18 months clear of Tommy John.
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He has the ability to do it. Question is if he can throw enough strikes. He threw around 150 innings in the minors/Arizona Fall League in 2016, so he's positioned to handle 190-200 this season.



Interesting and sneaky little move. Quick review shows me the Angels drafted Ruxer out of Louisville right after he had TJ surgery in 2014.

Opens up a spot on the 40 man while also adding an intriguing arm entering only his second full season since getting 18 months clear of Tommy John.
But you traded a guy with one of the best names in baseball.

Not sure it's worth it.
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