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Old 01-30-2013, 09:15 PM   #1
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Marcus McNeil was a top 10 elite left tackle prospect.

They discovered his stenosis at the combine I believe.

He fell to the 2nd round.

He played at a high level for 4 years and then started to break down. Now he's looking for a job.
Well, considering the average career is 3 yrs...
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:26 PM   #2
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Well, considering the average career is 3 yrs...
We need to do something about this falsehood.

The average career is 3 yrs because there are hundreds of players that get a few games on their resume and never sniff the NFL again.

Some get a couple of years holding down spots on bad teams until more talented players replace them.

The guys that have the talent to stick for longer usually go onto have 8, 10 years, or longer.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:29 PM   #3
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We need to do something about this falsehood.

The average career is 3 yrs because there are hundreds of players that get a few games on their resume and never sniff the NFL again.

Some get a couple of years holding down spots on bad teams until more talented players replace them.

The guys that have the talent to stick for longer usually go onto have 8, 10 years, or longer.
Oh I know, and a guy picked at 34 that only played for 3 years would be considered a bad pick. BUT, in the NFL I don't think you can expect 10 years. If you got an elite player for 5 or 6 you made a good pick.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:52 AM   #4
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We need to do something about this falsehood.

The average career is 3 yrs because there are hundreds of players that get a few games on their resume and never sniff the NFL again.

Some get a couple of years holding down spots on bad teams until more talented players replace them.

The guys that have the talent to stick for longer usually go onto have 8, 10 years, or longer.
Best indicator would probably be average career of players drafted in the first 3 rounds.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:30 PM   #5
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Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:34 PM   #6
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Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.
He has epilepsy.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:55 PM   #7
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He has epilepsy.
I think tats a symptom of what he had...which I remember the same as Htis...that it was a narrowing of he spine. Same as what Jones has.

He played till he was 32.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:33 PM   #8
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Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.
Rolle made a good move by staying away from Gunther.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:16 PM   #9
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Didn't Samaritan Rolle have it, too?

Thought that was the reason we didn't sign him and moved a pick for Surtain.
I don't know if it was ever confirmed but all the reports seemed to suggest that Rolle had a narrowing of the cervical spine, which would be stenosis.
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Is there anyway Arthur Brown makes it to the 3rd round?
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Is there anyway Arthur Brown makes it to the 3rd round?
No way he makes it out of the second IMO. Could probably go in the first.
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Walter is ****ing high if he thinks Tyler Wilson is going in the 2nd round, let alone AFTER EJ Manuel
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Walter is ****ing high if he thinks Tyler Wilson is going in the 2nd round, let alone AFTER EJ Manuel
I could potentially see Kelly snatching Manuel at #4 over Tyler. I can't in any way, imagine Tyler falling to the 2nd round. It would take IMO either Joeckel or Fisher falling to AZ and then Arians would have a very tough choice IMO. DO you try and help arguably the worst OL in the NFL and hope for a QB later that will probably not be a good fit or do you take a QB and hope to build your OL later + FA. I think that Arians will take a QB and will do his damnedest to build their OL via FA and in the draft after selecting their QB.
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I could potentially see Kelly snatching Manuel at #4 over Tyler. I can't in any way, imagine Tyler falling to the 2nd round. It would take IMO either Joeckel or Fisher falling to AZ and then Arians would have a very tough choice IMO. DO you try and help arguably the worst OL in the NFL and hope for a QB later that will probably not be a good fit or do you take a QB and hope to build your OL later + FA. I think that Arians will take a QB and will do his damnedest to build their OL via FA and in the draft after selecting their QB.
EJ Manuel at #4 would be a HUGE mistake.
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Walter is ****ing high if he thinks Tyler Wilson is going in the 2nd round, let alone AFTER EJ Manuel
I still disagree with you guys on Manuel.

I think the combine and pro days will allow him to showcase his tools and I think he's going to climb draft boards pretty quickly. I honestly wouldn't be shocked to see him go as the 2nd QB off the board.

The kid has serious talent. Probably more than anyone in the draft. He's raw as can be, but if you could untap his potential, he'd essentially be the good version of Dante Culpepper but with an actual work ethic. I've called him a mobile Roethlisberger for awhile and I think that is still his upside.
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