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[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

How about Wolverine vs Spiderman?

I've had this argument with a friends a million times. They all say Wolverine but Spider-Man is stronger, faster and has the range attack with the webs. I think he'd give Wolvey that work.

Spidey couldn't kill Wolverine (who can?) but he could knock him out.

One misstep and spidey loses his arm. Fight over.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

One misstep and spidey loses his arm. Fight over.

We've already established that Spidey would give Wolverine the business.

Someone like Captain America or Batman would be more Wolverine's speed.

[salame]

Where locally (kc area) do you shop?
Do you use mylars for all of your books or just your money books? If so do you use the 2mil or the 1.5s.
What size bag/boards do you prefer.
What storage methods do you use?
Anyone interested in any sale/trades?

[Fishpicker]

Originally Posted by salame

Where locally (kc area) do you shop?

Elite Comics
11842 Quivira Rd, Overland Park, KS ‎
(913) 345-9910

The owner is a good guy.

[salame]

Originally Posted by salame

Where locally (kc area) do you shop?
Do you use mylars for all of your books or just your money books? If so do you use the 2mil or the 1.5s.
What size bag/boards do you prefer.
What storage methods do you use?
Anyone interested in any sale/trades?

hey you turds
pay attention to me

[petegz28]

If one were to want to get into collecting what would you recommend to start with? Also what trade rags or web sites do you use to value the comics? I haven't touched a comic book in probably 20 years but would like to get back into collecting.

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Unfortunately, since I got caught in the government furlough, I had to cancel my trip to NY Comic Con. I was going to be helping a friend out at his table where he's selling his graphic novels as well as his latest novel that just came out. NYCC and SDCC are two intense shows, but as an exhibitor I don't get to see much of them. Mostly I'm working the booth from 9-7 Thursday through Sunday.

I do most of my shopping at conventions these days. Since I have written some short stories based on comic characters, I tend to pick up key issues about specific characters. It helps me get the characterization down pat and it's also a tax write off (research material). I buy more independent comics these days than I do DC or Marvel, but I have picked up some of the big omnibuses in B&N or B-A-M (they're B&W versions using the original pencils), but they're a lot cheaper since they don't have to pay for color.

Originally Posted by petegz28

If one were to want to get into collecting what would you recommend to start with? Also what trade rags or web sites do you use to value the comics? I haven't touched a comic book in probably 20 years but would like to get back into collecting.

[Silock]

Honestly, I torrent mine and then buy the ones I feel deserve my money.

[Aries Walker]

The new Hawkeye series is outstanding. Same with Fearless Defenders and Superior Foes of Spider-Man. If you want back series, try Captain America: Red, White and Black from a few years ago.

And yes, Marvel is the superior brand. Most of DC's appeal is Batman, and he can only go so far.

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

The new Hawkeye series is outstanding.

Agreed. My favorite series right now are Hawkeye, Saga, and Wonder Woman.

[Aries Walker]

Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.

As I stated. Spiderman is 10X stronger according to Marvel. 20 tons vs 2 tons.

He beat the crap out of a herald of Galactus for Chrissake.

[Valiant]

They are correct 99 times out of 100 spidey should win against wolverine. But it depends more on the writer.. Wolverine could do it. Technically depending on wolverine lore, his mutant ability is not just a healing factor, it is surviving factor, he can reheal from being burnt to a crisp, dismembered, ages super slow.. Then add weaponry. But a pissed off spidey would be fun also..

You can debate either way from what writers have put into books..

the only battle that pisses me off is the batman vs. superman... Superman would own almost anyone that was not a magic user. Superman could just go orbital against batman and most others and own them them. Kryptonite, magic and humanity right now is his only real weaknesses.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

This is correct. People root for Wolverine because he's popular, but power level wise, he's no match for Spider-Man on any level.

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Okay, if you really want to do this: Wolverine can't kill Spider-Man either. He's not strong enough, even with the claws. Spider-Man just took an unholy beating from Phoenix-Force powered Colossus - whose weaker 'partner' Emma Frost had just pounded Thor literally into the dirt - and not only lived to talk about it, but arranged the defeat of Colossus and his similarly-overpowered sister Magik to boot. Spider-Man is also much faster, physically stronger, and far more acrobatic than Wolverine, and he has ranged weapons, and is a legitimate scientific genius. He repeatedly surprises other A-list superheroes with the levels of his abilities in combat. In his earlier days, he was a pretty weakling nerd, but over the years they've amped up his power level so he's on par with the strongest there are. Wolverine is strong, but not that strong.

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Spiderman is faster, stronger(10X to be exact) and FAR FAR smarter.

Spiderman could easily knock him out and stuff him in a furnace.

According to everything Marvel has published. Spiderman (if willing) could kill Wolverine in a New York minute.

Originally Posted by Valiant

They are correct 99 times out of 100 spidey should win against wolverine. But it depends more on the writer.. Wolverine could do it. Technically depending on wolverine lore, his mutant ability is not just a healing factor, it is surviving factor, he can reheal from being burnt to a crisp, dismembered, ages super slow.. Then add weaponry. But a pissed off spidey would be fun also..

You can debate either way from what writers have put into books..

the only battle that pisses me off is the batman vs. superman... Superman would own almost anyone that was not a magic user. Superman could just go orbital against batman and most others and own them them. Kryptonite, magic and humanity right now is his only real weaknesses.

Alright, thank you. Sounds like you guys listen to reason. In fairness, my friends are idiots. Their entire argument is that Spider-Man is gay and always gets beat up in the movies.

Spidery is stronger, faster, more acrobatic, more agile, has faster reaction time, the spider sense, and the webs- which according to the movies have tensile strength proportional to the cables that hold up bridges. If Spider-Man were pissed off, it wouldn't even be a close fight, IMO.

While we're on the subject though, what I find weird is how Wolverine is always portrayed. If you go by Wolverine Origins (which is one of my fave comics by the way), he was born sometime in the 1800s. He's been a member of Canadian black ops, fought in wars, spent time as a samurai, and survived the Weapon X program. The dudes had, like, 80 years of intense combat training and yet he's never mentioned as one of the best hand-to-hand combatants in the Marvel Universe. They always rank guys like Captain America and Black Panther and shit ahead of him.

On top of it all, he's always written as this mindless, berserker brawler. I mean, I understand they want to highlight his healing factor and show what a tank he is, but I've just always felt like it was doing his character a disservice.

[Sure-Oz]

The Dark Knight Returns is one of my favorite comics ever. They just came out with the TDKR animated deluxe edition bluray today. Check it out.